moneymaker/fossilman who's the real deal??

[muckdumper]

fossilman has a darn great game where as monkeymaker has not improved anywhere to stay on top was it pure luck and smaller field?still a great accomplisment but come on 7-2!!fossilman has a better chance of being on a main event final wsop table again .good luck champ [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]your game is a pleasure to watch [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

[UATrewqaz]

This has been hashed to death but the general consensus is that Raymer is a very good, if not great player, while Moneymaker is rather mediocre.

[Easy E]

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the general consensus is that Raymer is a very good, if not great player

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I must have missed that final approved vote.

[Quicksilvre]

I'll say Moneymaker is a wee bit better than mediocre, since he has made a WPT final table as well. However, with the final table he had this year in a preliminary event, as well as one or two other cashes, Raymer seems to be decidedly better for now.

[jojobinks]

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I'll say Moneymaker is a wee bit better than mediocre, since he has made a WPT final table as well. However, with the final table he had this year in a preliminary event, as well as one or two other cashes, Raymer seems to be decidedly better for now.

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ahem...Moneymaker finished second in a wpt event. let's talk about who else that's won a wsopme has finished as high in a wpt event. i can think of brunson...yeah, that's about it.

[HamJam]

Well, I've seen Mortensen win a WPT if I'm not mistaken. Plus ME winners are at least on the WPT often, Scotty Nguyen, Hellmuth, Ferguson have all been on it.

[ggbman]

Raymer's performance over the last year has indaicted that he is amongst the top tournament players in the world right now regardless of what anyone says. In addition to winning the WSOP last year, he has already made a final table this year at the WSOP and made numerous other cashes where he was close to making another big score. (WPT championship, etc...) With his chipstack now, he is a very formidable force in this years ME. Moneymaker was very lucky to win the Main Event, but is now an above average player and his second place finish finish at shooting stars halps affirm this. He doesn't play very many events, so this is why he hasnt made any big splashes latley.

[ismisus]

Truly Fossilman's style is very boring to watch. From what I seen, he gathers chips by pushing people out of the pot. Its not fun seeing a player go all in. I am not saying its a bad style, its just a boring style. I get it, you push, they fold, you win.

Now Farha, Ivey, Flack, Marcel, Dan Neg all have a style that is truly a pleasure to watch. They want to see a lot of flops, and they want to outplay their opponent without pushing a whole bunch of chips into the pot. No wonder they all made ESPN featured tables.

[DesertCat]

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Truly Fossilman's style is very boring to watch. From what I seen, he gathers chips by pushing people out of the pot. Its not fun seeing a player go all in. I am not saying its a bad style, its just a boring style. I get it, you push, they fold, you win.

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You gathered this from ...? Oh, maybe you watched last years final table and thought the ten or so hands Greg played were representative of the thousands of hands he played that tournament alone?

I'll leave this to others to elaborate.

[Sheik]

Found this on an ESPN chat with Robert Williamson III.

Dave (Philadelphia): Do you see Raymer, Moneymaker, or Varkonyi ever winning another bracelet?

Robert Williamson III: I think Moneymaker's game has come a long way. He is a solid player. I don't think he plays that many events anymore. Raymer plays a lot of events but I think even he would tell you that he rose to the occassion that year .. but is he consistently going to win? No. If Moneymaker spent more time playing, he could be a consistent winner.

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