fold KAs Post Flop

Poop4Munny · #1 07-06-2005, 06:42 PM

any opinions on this fold?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises, 3 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, CO calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (6 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, CO bets, SB calls, BB folds, Hero folds.

River: (8 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, CO checks.

Final Pot: 8 BB

hemstock · #2 07-06-2005, 06:46 PM

Call. You are getting 7 to 1 on your money.

thegoose420 · #3 07-07-2005, 01:55 AM

why are you checking the turn just because a Q came out? you need to bet. call a rerasie if one comes, even though i doubt it would happen.

Bungler · #4 07-07-2005, 02:05 AM

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why are you checking the turn just because a Q came out? you need to bet. call a rerasie if one comes, even though i doubt it would happen.

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Why would you do that?

thegoose420 · #5 07-07-2005, 02:19 AM

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why are you checking the turn just because a Q came out? you need to bet. call a rerasie if one comes, even though i doubt it would happen.

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well, first off, i really doubt they would reraise, they will almost always fold, or rarely even call at this level.

secondly with two over cards, i count at least 4.5 outs, and even though the immediate pot odds don't look good for a raise, the implied odds look pretty good too me if i catch one of my over cards. you're going to gain one or two BB if they do have a pair of queens.

Bungler · #6 07-07-2005, 02:36 AM

I think what my point is what does a bet here accomplish? We're betting into 3 people with ace high and no draw. Getting raised here sucks. That would suggest that we are already beaten and drawing very slim on the river.

I don't think the possibility of collecting a bet on the river makes up for this possibility. Check/folding the turn seems like the correct play given the situation and the odds.

Piz0wn0reD!!!!!! · #7 07-07-2005, 05:52 AM

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why are you checking the turn just because a Q came out? you need to bet. call a rerasie if one comes, even though i doubt it would happen.

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well, first off, i really doubt they would reraise, they will almost always fold, or rarely even call at this level.

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this is untrue

Vasquez · #8 07-06-2005, 06:49 PM

First the pot is small you arent getting the price to call. Two players loved that turn card.The turn brought us the CLUB so you could also be drawing to 4 outs max not to mention if someone has KQ or AQ you are i neven worse shape. Good fold bad turn card for you [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] .

Vasquez · #9 07-06-2005, 06:50 PM

hemstock how do you call? Some of your outs could be dead? you are getting 7-1. You only have 6 outs which dont count as full outs. So you probably have 3 outs max. We arent getting the 15-1

hemstock · #10 07-06-2005, 06:54 PM

Could be...
but since the flop came rainbow i wouldnt put them on a flush draw.