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TT overpair - capped on flop
I'll try to post this one in stages. But what I'm primarily concerned with is, is capping the flop the right decision?
Sorry for the format -- Absolute doesn't seem to work on bisonbison at present even though it's listed for LHE ring games. Sorry also for no specific reads. (I'm new to 2-tabling.) In general Absolute's 50c/$1 seems to have pretty competent opponents; then again, Pacific is my point of reference so everything seems tough compared to there. Absolute Poker 50c/$1 Limit Hold 'em Seat 1 - Hero $19.50 in chips Seat 2 - EP3 $8.85 in chips Seat 3 - MP1 $37.65 in chips Seat 4 - MP2 $49.25 in chips Seat 5 - CO $8.45 in chips Seat 6 - Button $18.35 in chips Seat 7 - SB $27.75 in chips Seat 8 - Villain $29.45 in chips Seat 9 - UTG $19.47 in chips *** BLIND [dealer 6] *** SB - Post small blind $0.25 Villain - Post big blind $0.50 Hero - Pocket [10h,10d] UTG - Folds Hero - Raises $0.50 to $1 EP3 - Folds MP1 - Folds MP2 - Folds CO - Folds Button - Folds SB - Folds Villain - Calls $0.50 *** FLOP [7h,8c,4c] *** Villain - Bets $0.50 Hero - Raises $0.50 to $1 Villain - Raises $0.50 to $1.50 Hero - Raises $0.50 to $2 Villain - Calls $0.50 (Turn, river, and showdown to follow.) |
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Re: TT overpair - capped on flop
I would also cap this flop.
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Re: TT overpair - capped on flop
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I would also cap this flop. [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: TT overpair - capped on flop
Good flop cap. I'm surprised you're having problems with the converter. I've successfully used it to post many hands from Absolute.
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Re: TT overpair - capped on flop
87 is a real possibility for the villain here--worse would bet a set--but your cap is good.
Anyway, if the villain leads the turn, call and hope the board pairs on the river. If the villain checks, bet again and call a check-raise, showdown. |
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Re: TT overpair - capped on flop
Looks good so far.
Try to put it into bison's converter with out the #################################### stuff at the top...I think that's what screws it up. |
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Re: TT overpair - capped on flop
I dont think that you needed to cap this flop HU.
You already raised villain's initial flop bet, which could have meant that he had top pair, a flush or straight draw. His 3-bet suggests that he may have 2 pair or better. In any event, capping the flop is unlikely to make him fold and wont really provide you with any additional information regarding the strength of his hand. Also you need to bear in mind, that if you are behind that apart from a runner runner straight that you only have 2 outs to improve to a set. I dont think that capping the flop is a terrible mistake because it only costs you one small bet. However, I think that I would have just called villain's 3-bet and waited to see the turn. |
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Re: TT overpair - capped on flop
I think you overplayed the TTs and wouldnt cap the flop. I would think the BB would call you without reraising with small/med pair, siuted connectors, suited cards, or even slow play strong hands. Based on his re-raising you I dont think he is on a draw. Dont think there is equity to do that heads up thus I think the flop hit him in the face. He either has the str8 or a set.
I call his re-raise hope for a 3rd 10 and if not fold. I would appreciate at some point feed back on the hand reading as I am trying to improve my skill and the feed bcak would be helpfull. Thanks |
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Thanks to all! reply to this reply (hand reading)
Thanks for the reply. I'm convinced that capping the flop is pointless.
[ QUOTE ] I think you overplayed the TTs and wouldnt cap the flop. I would think the BB would call you without reraising with small/med pair, siuted connectors, suited cards, or even slow play strong hands. Based on his re-raising you I dont think he is on a draw. Dont think there is equity to do that heads up thus I think the flop hit him in the face. He either has the str8 or a set. [/ QUOTE ] I think most players will 3-bet the flop with two pair, also. And occasionally an aggressive-yet-somewhat-rational player might do that with A9, although I grant that's pretty remote. So most likely I'm putting money in with the worse of it, and depending on the likelihood of different draws coming in, folding or calling the 3-bet is probably the correct course of action. Psychologically speaking, I think I was motivated to cap by being in, "He's defending his blind so he may not have much," mode, and not switching into, "Oops, he's made a hand" mode. I lean toward calling because I have a good draw against two pair and a poor draw against the straight or a set. The clincher is that folding to a reraise will encourage him to take shots at me. [ QUOTE ] I call his re-raise hope for a 3rd 10 and if not fold. [/ QUOTE ] While I do things like this in the heat of battle, reflecting upon it now I think the only justification for call-and-fold-on-the-turn-unless-a-10-comes is the consideration I just mentioned, not getting bluff-raised on future turns. Some mutually countervailing considerations: <ul type="square">[*]The odds for this particular draw, ONLY at a ten, are pretty bad -- about 9 small bets in the pot, so 9:1 on a 22:1 shot at an overset. [*]However, if you throw in the board pairing and counterfeiting two pair, it's about an 8:1 shot hence worth pursuing. [*]But tens up nor a set of tens are wins if he has a straight. [*]Throw in the possibility of a total bluff (Harrington says minimum 10% at NL; this isn't NL but there are compulsive bluffers everywhere).[/list] I think it's probably worth staying to the turn, but just barely. And if the turn doesn't pair the board, should I throw the overpair away? Anyway, thanks to everyone, and especially to PJM1206 whose post I've dissected. I'll post the rest of the action atop the thread. |
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Re: TT overpair - capped on flop
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Sorry for the format -- Absolute doesn't seem to work on bisonbison at present even though it's listed for LHE ring games. Sorry also for no specific reads. [/ QUOTE ] Once upon a time, there was no bison converter. We typed the hands out manually. It took about a minute. You don't need the fancy colors and the uniform formatting. You just need to make it easily readable. |
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