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Old 06-30-2005, 04:21 PM
Lawrence Ng Lawrence Ng is offline
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Default 20-40 Button hand.

Good live game, I've had a couple of times when it's been all folded to me and I've raised each time on the button no matter what my cards were.

3rd time now in a 3 hour session. I pick up Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and raise on the button. SB folds, BB - a loose player, has called every one of my raises and this time is no different.

He has a tell. He likes to bet into preflop raisesrs with a draw and check/call with a decent hand (say TP/MP weak kicker or small two pair against possible straight/flush boards)

Board comes K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

He checks, I bet, he calls.

Turn is a 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] He checks, I check.

River is a 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] He bets, I call.

Comments welcome.

Thanks.

Lawrence
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Old 06-30-2005, 04:53 PM
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Default Re: 20-40 Button hand.

You are calling for half of the pot here, and the pot is small. I would just fold the river against this sort of player given your read. There are 4 bets in the pot, but really for you there are only 2. Dump it.
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Old 06-30-2005, 05:17 PM
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Default Re: 20-40 Button hand.

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You are calling for half of the pot here, and the pot is small. I would just fold the river against this sort of player given your read. There are 4 bets in the pot, but really for you there are only 2. Dump it.

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Wow
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Old 07-18-2005, 08:37 PM
Kovner Kovner is offline
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Default Re: 20-40 Button hand.

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You are calling for half of the pot here, and the pot is small. I would just fold the river against this sort of player given your read. There are 4 bets in the pot, but really for you there are only 2. Dump it.

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What about the weakness shown on the turn? Doesn't that induce a bluff, and give reason for a river call?
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Old 06-30-2005, 04:58 PM
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Default Re: 20-40 Button hand.

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BB - a loose player, has called every one of my raises and this time is no different.

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I've raised each time on the button no matter what my cards were.

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Old 06-30-2005, 05:08 PM
Lawrence Ng Lawrence Ng is offline
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Default Re: 20-40 Button hand.

Felson, you telling me QT suited is not a raising hand on the button after everyone folds?

Lawrence
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Old 06-30-2005, 06:05 PM
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Default Re: 20-40 Button hand.

I have no problem raising QTs on the button. I don't understand why you are raising on the button with any two cards.
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Old 06-30-2005, 11:22 PM
Lawrence Ng Lawrence Ng is offline
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Default Re: 20-40 Button hand.

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I don't understand why you are raising on the button with any two cards.

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Because I am usually the best player on the table, Since SKP, Tuco, MBE don't play with me (thank god for that) , there are only 2 others in Vancouver that I consider better limit players that I am and both of them are rarely on the tables with me. 90% of the Vancouver players are weak passive. The avg 2+2'er would kill these games over the long run.

One of the best players that I have the opportunity to play against, always raises the button whenever it is folded to him no matter who is in the blind and what his two cards were. I use to think he was crazy, but he's a bonified 2 to 2.5 bb/hr winner if not more. And I believe a significant portion of that winning is due to his ability to really weave his ability to play the button so well.

Lawrence
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Old 06-30-2005, 11:43 PM
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Default Re: 20-40 Button hand.

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Because I am usually the best player on the table, Since SKP, Tuco, MBE don't play with me (thank god for that) , there are only 2 others in Vancouver that I consider better limit players that I am and both of them are rarely on the tables with me. 90% of the Vancouver players are weak passive. The avg 2+2'er would kill these games over the long run.

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Sorry for a bit of a hijack here, but I'm a little curious about what you have to say about the Vancouver games. Is this at the River Rock where you are playing? I've played there a bit last school year, but only 2/4 and 4/8 as I was just learning to play. Those games have to be the biggest joke I have ever seen. I'm just curious as to how they are as you move up to 6/12, 10/20 and higher. How about the 10/20 Kill games at the Holiday Inn? I would like to play a bunch more when I move back there in Sept, and I'm just wondering what I'll be in for. Thanks
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Old 07-18-2005, 07:41 PM
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Default Re: 20-40 Button hand.

Hey All-Star, I know Michael is one but who do you consider to be the only other one better than you???
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