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Old 06-29-2005, 07:58 AM
Enon Enon is offline
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Default Bullys keep pushing me around

SB: Tough multitabling regular (16/10/2.5)
BB: Have only a few hands on him but seems pretty tag (20/14/2.x)

Figured I was up against at least one other ace, possibly a very fastly played set from the BB or another ace.

My effective odds cold calling another 2 would be 9.5-1 assuming SB just called the additional bet and they would be 7-1 if betting gets capped.

Prudent fold or am I just hopelessly weak tight?

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Preflop: Enon is CO with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls, Enon calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Enon bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP3 folds, Enon folds
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Old 06-29-2005, 11:05 AM
mplspoker mplspoker is offline
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Default Re: Bullys keep pushing me around

in my opinion i would cap it and go from there....
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Old 06-29-2005, 08:56 PM
bicyclekick bicyclekick is offline
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Default Re: Bullys keep pushing me around

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in my opinion i would cap it and go from there....

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This is very bad advice. Wow. CAP it? Uhhh...try fold? Calling isn't THE WORST because of the backdoor flush possibiltiy with possible 8 as an out too, but it's a losing play. I can't believe you want to cap this.

The pre-flop cold call is where you went wrong enon. Yuck man, fold that [censored].
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Old 06-29-2005, 12:49 PM
rory rory is offline
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Default Re: Bullys keep pushing me around

Maybe if you didn't cold call raises with raped hands you would not get into this sort of situation.
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Old 06-29-2005, 02:25 PM
Stuck Stuck is offline
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Default Re: Bullys keep pushing me around

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Maybe if you didn't cold call raises with raped hands you would not get into this sort of situation.

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Especially with two TAGs in the blinds.

Three-bets to me on that flop, and with two good players raising, I fold.
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Old 06-29-2005, 02:56 PM
daryn daryn is offline
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Default Re: Bullys keep pushing me around

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Maybe if you didn't cold call raises with raped hands you would not get into this sort of situation.

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dude, it was a float, not a cold call
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Old 06-29-2005, 04:23 PM
rory rory is offline
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Default Re: Bullys keep pushing me around

ohh. i misread the hand history....VVNH then.
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Old 06-29-2005, 05:50 PM
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Default Re: Bullys keep pushing me around

A coldcall is a coldcall no matter how pretty you want to make it.

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Old 06-29-2005, 07:04 PM
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A coldcall is a coldcall no matter how pretty you want to make it.

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I think you need to turn on your sarcasm detector...
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Old 06-29-2005, 04:59 PM
elindauer elindauer is offline
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Default Re: Bullys keep pushing me around

Looks like a prudent fold to me. You're not closing the action, all signs point to you drawing thin, and you're facing a redraw even if you do catch perfect. Without the backdoor flush draw it's an easy fold.

Good luck.
Eric
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