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Old 06-22-2005, 10:24 PM
pokerraja pokerraja is offline
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Default whats your read on this overbet? $55sng

No reads. early in tourney. Im the button.
I hold (4,4) including a spade.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

UTG (t970)
UTG+1 (t540)
UTG+2 (t1000)
MP1 (t1000)
MP2 (t975)
MP3 (t970)
CO (t1385)
Button (t1290)
SB (t885)
BB (t985)

Preflop:
UTG calls t15, UTG+1 calls t15, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP3 calls t15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls t15, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t90) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets t100</font>, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls t100, MP3 folds, Button calls t100, SB calls t100.

Turn: (t490) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets t870 (All-in) Now what?????????
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Old 06-22-2005, 10:28 PM
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Default Re: whats your read on this overbet? $55sng

This is one for Irie, since we don't get to see your cards.
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Old 06-22-2005, 10:28 PM
adanthar adanthar is offline
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Default Re: whats your read on this overbet? $55sng

And your hand would be...? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 06-22-2005, 10:30 PM
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Default Re: whats your read on this overbet? $55sng

damn, i have (4,4) including a spade.
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Old 06-22-2005, 10:33 PM
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Default Re: whats your read on this overbet? $55sng

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damn, i have (4,4) including a spade.

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This is a straight sometimes and a flush reasonably often, but it's also some weird 99-ish hand or total junk pretty regularly.

I'm calling it, although I'd fold AQ and 54. You've too much of a hand to put him on the nuts right now.

edit: yeah, the dude bet the pot and got 2 callers, push the flop and it's not close
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Old 06-22-2005, 10:38 PM
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Default Re: whats your read on this overbet? $55sng

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damn, i have (4,4) including a spade.

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This is a straight sometimes and a flush reasonably often, but it's also some weird 99-ish hand or total junk pretty regularly.

I'm calling it, although I'd fold AQ and 54. You've too much of a hand to put him on the nuts right now.

edit: yeah, the dude bet the pot and got 2 callers, push the flop and it's not close

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thanks for the response. I totally agree with reraising/pushing the flop, but I decided to see the turn and go from there, at the same time I wanted to be able to get away from this hand (JUST DIDNT FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT WITH THAT FLOP) . Now I was ready to dump this hand , but the overbet looked so suspicious to me.
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Old 06-22-2005, 10:40 PM
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Default Re: whats your read on this overbet? $55sng

Trying to get away with flopped sets is REALLY, REALLY, REALLY STUPID.
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Old 06-22-2005, 10:42 PM
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Default Re: whats your read on this overbet? $55sng

By the way I think pushing the flop is wrong. After seeing that flop all I could think about is dont go broke in an unraised multi-way pot. It was family (6 person) pot after all. I have position, and I wanted to see some more cards and betting patterns before I make a big decision. Is this flawed thinking?
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Old 06-22-2005, 10:29 PM
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Default Re: whats your read on this overbet? $55sng

Hero is stupid for slowplaying flopped straight/set and not raising on flop. At the same time, I doubt Hero can fold here.
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Old 06-22-2005, 10:30 PM
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Edit: Ok you have 44. Push the flop!!!
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