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Old 06-22-2005, 01:51 PM
Jonathan Jonathan is offline
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Default KK Preflop fold Level 1?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">MP2 (t770)</font>
<font color="#C00000">MP3 (t1065)</font>
<font color="#C00000">CO (t790)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Button (t670)</font>
<font color="#C00000">SB (t1005)</font>
<font color="#C00000">BB (t580)</font>
<font color="#C00000">UTG (t770)</font>
<font color="#C00000">UTG+1 (t800)</font>
<font color="#C00000">UTG+2 (t775)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero (t775)</font>

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

UTG + 1 raises $75, 1 fold,
Hero reraises to $200, all fold to UTG+1 who bets 725 allin.

Whats your move? Call or lay it down?

Suerte,
Jonathan
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Old 06-22-2005, 01:53 PM
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Default Re: KK Preflop fold Level 1?

call
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Old 06-22-2005, 01:53 PM
Wes ManTooth Wes ManTooth is offline
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Default Re: KK Preflop fold Level 1?

Call
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Old 06-22-2005, 01:54 PM
1C5 1C5 is offline
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Default Re: KK Preflop fold Level 1?

call.

QQ is a more interesting choice.

JJ=fold
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Old 06-22-2005, 02:01 PM
gildwulf gildwulf is offline
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Default Re: KK Preflop fold Level 1?

I MIGHT lay down QQ lvl 1 if I have previous notes that he is super tight. But at lvl 1 you have the biggest concentrations of donks. You need to capitalize on this before they all bust out with A9o all-in preflop. Call QQ too.

Also, what lvl is this? I only have experience up through 30s (which I assume you're at considering the question).
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Old 06-22-2005, 02:10 PM
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Default Re: KK Preflop fold Level 1?

Unless you know that this is a very strong, very tight player then an easy call and even if he is that strong, tight player it is a call for me although I wouldn't be as surprised when he flipped over AA...
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Old 06-22-2005, 01:55 PM
Karak567 Karak567 is offline
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Default Re: KK Preflop fold Level 1?

Folding KK pre-flop is always wrong (almost always).

I really hope you didn't fold here.

I wouldn't lay down QQ here either.
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Old 06-22-2005, 01:59 PM
gildwulf gildwulf is offline
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Default Re: KK Preflop fold Level 1?

no no no no no no no no no no no no no.

DO NOT FOLD KK PREFLOP.
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Old 06-22-2005, 01:59 PM
Slim Pickens Slim Pickens is offline
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Default Re: KK Preflop fold Level 1?

Call.

I experimented with the Level 1 KK open-push in a 22 last night. I was UTG on the first hand and figured what the hell, push. The first caller had TT, so I consider the experiment a success. The second had AA. That's an occupational hazard. Do whatever you can to get all your chips in preflop with KK.

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Old 06-22-2005, 02:00 PM
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Default Re: KK Preflop fold Level 1?

the range of hands the average sng player would push with here is so large that folding would be a crime. A CRIME I TELL YE. Also, even if he turned up AA, it doesnt mean that folding was the right play.
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