Horrid downswing...maintianing confidence?

sethypooh21 · #1 06-19-2005, 04:55 PM

Having been a winning player at 2/4 6 for a while, I dedided to take 1000 BB shot at 5/10. Started out well, but then not so much, misplaced aggression, a fair degree of bad like and some tilt, etc. You know the deal. So, responsibly, I dropped back down to 3/6 and 2/4 6, and yet the same thing kept happening. Spiking sets/kickers, 4 cards str8s, set over set, overlagginess vs. calling stations, etc... At a certain point, I begin to feel that, despite my track record, I'M NEVER GOING TO BE A WINNING PLAYER AGAIN.

Has anyone else had this fun little experience, and what techniques did you use to rebound. (I've come back a little, playing 2/4 in a very tight-solid style...)

Thanks in advance,
Pooh,

-down 200 bb's over 6k hands is not a fun place to be..

lefty rosen · #2 06-19-2005, 05:01 PM

Take a few days off. It's not hard to do if your not playing for income. Then just ignore your losses........ [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

sy_or_bust · #3 06-19-2005, 05:11 PM

Try 10-handed for a couple days.

oreogod · #4 06-20-2005, 01:22 AM

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Try 10-handed for a couple days.

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I agree. Then again, Im not much of a six-max person as of yet...I know there is a little less variance though. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

aflaba · #5 06-19-2005, 05:11 PM

I've had that fun little experience two times. Last time, the big time, it cost me $8,000.

I thought I was getting drawn out, and that all I needed was to try to keep my confidence and ride it out.

Unfortunatly, bad luck wasn't the problem, bad play was. I had started making more mistakes along the way, getting sloppy and nonchalant. I had lost my fire.

I tried to rebound, but I couldn't. So I took a break that lasted for two months. When I was feeling like it was payback time I started playing again. Now I'm struggeling, playing fewer table and lower limits, trying to get back into the grove. It's going allright.

Dov · #6 06-20-2005, 08:11 AM

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I thought I was getting drawn out, and that all I needed was to try to keep my confidence and ride it out.

Unfortunatly, bad luck wasn't the problem, bad play was. I had started making more mistakes along the way, getting sloppy and nonchalant. I had lost my fire.

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This happened to me too, and I suspect is fairly common. These downswings are NOT all variance, as OOP mentioned in his post.

Taking a break will not help, unless you examine your game during that time.

I suggest taking a break of 1 session (timewise). During that session, go through your PT database and replay the acual hands with your biggest losses and biggest wins.

Take notes on the hands as if someone else had posted them here in the forum. You will discover many leaks this way, and you may simply discover bad luck, or many overplayed hands.

The hands that don't seem wrong to you, but that also don't seem like villain was particularly lucky, post here.

It is much more likely that you got outplayed when you moved up. Find your winning game again at the lower limits, keep analysing and posting from your foray into 5/10, and when you're ready to try again, take your next shot.

mungpo · #7 06-19-2005, 06:25 PM

You will be a winning player again.

If you are getting outdrawn and losing because of bad luck and not bad play, then thats poker. A 1000bb roll for the 5/10 is enough to off set these sort of swings.

What site do you play 5/10 on?

sethypooh21 · #8 06-19-2005, 08:10 PM

This worst part is this mind-numbing, rage inducing, TILT, that if anything is WORSE when I'm not playing right now. I'm pissed at myself for losing (because some/most of it was my fault), I'm pissed at other people for being lucky idiots, I'm pissed at stars for having a rigged shuffle (joking). I'm just angry [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img].

krishanleong · #9 06-19-2005, 10:26 PM

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This worst part is this mind-numbing, rage inducing, TILT, that if anything is WORSE when I'm not playing right now. I'm pissed at myself for losing (because some/most of it was my fault), I'm pissed at other people for being lucky idiots, I'm pissed at stars for having a rigged shuffle (joking). I'm just angry [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img].

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I was looking at your hands the other day, just randomly and the couple I saw were pretty shittily played. In the 5 or so I looked at you were pushing way to hard.

Krishan

robokop · #10 06-19-2005, 11:57 PM

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This worst part is this mind-numbing, rage inducing, TILT, that if anything is WORSE when I'm not playing right now. I'm pissed at myself for losing (because some/most of it was my fault), I'm pissed at other people for being lucky idiots, I'm pissed at stars for having a rigged shuffle (joking). I'm just angry [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img].

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You definitely seemed to be tilting pretty hard yesterday. I took a pot or two from you, and I just remember you going off on how the whole table were morons, especially me. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Hopefully things turn better for you soon--I'm at 2/4 for the same reason you are, so I know how it feels.