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[scott8]

Party Poker 30/60 Hold'em (4 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Button calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, Button calls.

Turn: (7 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, Button calls.

River: (13 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 17 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Button has Ac Qc (two pair, aces and sixes).
Hero has 8d Ah (two pair, aces and eights).
Outcome: Hero wins 17 BB. </font>

[hockey1]

I'm not a big fan of the preflop call. Other than that nice hand.

[AlexSem]

you need to re-examine 4 handed game if you think calling with A8 is not a good idea.

I'd 3-bet it based on how often the player raises. 4 Handed, A8 is the [censored], [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[hockey1]

Admittedly I don't play much 4 handed. My thinking, though, is that if it's folded to me either a call or a raise would be fine, but with the caller before me, and out of position, it seems like it's just asking for trouble. Win a small pot or lose a big one kind of trouble. My guess is that a call here is at best slightly +EV for the best players, but that for everybody else it's a hand that will be very tough to play postflop if there's any action at all.

[obi---one]

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Admittedly I don't play much 4 handed. My thinking, though, is that if it's folded to me either a call or a raise would be fine, but with the caller before me, and out of position, it seems like it's just asking for trouble. Win a small pot or lose a big one kind of trouble. My guess is that a call here is at best slightly +EV for the best players, but that for everybody else it's a hand that will be very tough to play postflop if there's any action at all.

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your wrong. don't play 4-handed, you will get run over.

[Fianchetto]

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Admittedly I don't play much 4 handed. My thinking, though, is that if it's folded to me either a call or a raise would be fine, but with the caller before me, and out of position, it seems like it's just asking for trouble. Win a small pot or lose a big one kind of trouble. My guess is that a call here is at best slightly +EV for the best players, but that for everybody else it's a hand that will be very tough to play postflop if there's any action at all.

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your wrong. don't play 4-handed, you will get run over.


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Actually, I think he is right on.

[whodaman]

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Admittedly I don't play much 4 handed. My thinking, though, is that if it's folded to me either a call or a raise would be fine, but with the caller before me, and out of position, it seems like it's just asking for trouble. Win a small pot or lose a big one kind of trouble. My guess is that a call here is at best slightly +EV for the best players, but that for everybody else it's a hand that will be very tough to play postflop if there's any action at all.

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yes... your right... you must not play sh much

[gonores]

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My thinking, though, is that if it's folded to me either a call or a raise would be fine, but with the caller before me, and out of position, it seems like it's just asking for trouble. Win a small pot or lose a big one kind of trouble.

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This is pretty spot on. I'm not saying fold here 100%, but calling (I'd prolly prefer a 3bet) with A8o puts you in tough spots more often than not.

[NMcNasty]

If the cutoff is bad enough to always raise with any ace and the button is bad enough to call with any ace or suited garbage, then reraising is the correct play. Against average players however its likely the cutoff's raising standards are like A5 on up and the button's calling standards are even higher. I agree that A8o is a good hand 4 handed but not in worst position against a raiser and a caller.

[glen]

what was your reason for posting this?