The attraction of omaha

[PhatCasino]

i've been looking for some Omaha Hi ONLY games in vegas and the only ones i've found are the Orleans and some station casinos.... (Only Boulder and Palace??)


- The reason i like playing the Hi ONLY games is because its straight forward like hold-em, but then again your playing against a larger amount of clueless-math-odds-etc players.
I'd like to learn Hi/Lo and PL08, but I'm hesitant..

- Does anyone know of any more games that are consistently spread?

- In addition, I would consider playing Omaha Hi/Lo - but I have some questions about all the Omaha variations....
* Is Omaha Hi/Lo the same as Omaha Hi/Lo Split?
* Where is there a PL08 game? This also seems real advanced from what I read.
* What poker rooms in vegas spread constant games of all these variations?
- I have looked at poker room review sites such as allvegaspoker.com and pokerplayernewspaper... but can't seem to find that much concrete info..

The reason I'm attracted to Omaha is it is clear and simply an extremely profitable game..
with more clueless players
with higher hourly win rates
with less deviation
& with less bankroll required
than that of Hold-em....

* Comments/Suggestions Needed!

[AKQJ10]

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* Is Omaha Hi/Lo the same as Omaha Hi/Lo Split?


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Yes. And you didn't ask about "Omaha Hi/Lo 8-or-better" but that's the same too. Caution, though -- when people just say "8-or-better" they usually mean Stud H/L, not Omaha.

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* Where is there a PL08 game?

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Europe. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Seriously, it's supposed to be huge over there, but I don't know where you'd find a B&M game in this country. Then again I'm not a Vegas regular.

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The reason I'm attracted to Omaha is it is clear and simply an extremely profitable game..
with more clueless players
with higher hourly win rates
with less deviation
& with less bankroll required
than that of Hold-em....

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I play mostly H/L but that's certainly the case there. Most everyone gets some piece of any given flop, so there are a lot of people who fish along with their top pair or gutshot despite two suited or whatever.

[TiK]

This was a couple of years back, but Harrahs in New Orleans used to consistently spread a PL as well as a 15-30 Omaha Hi game...not sure about now though...back then the two main games they had there were Stud and Omaha Hi. Then they had a couple of tables of half-hold'em, half omaha tables where they'd play an orbit of hold'em and an orbit of omaha-hi. That was a 1-4-8-8 spread-limit game with 1-2 blinds. Don't know about now though.

[Spicole]

I play at Harrah's in NOLA fairly often. They is alwayst at least one table of $1-$4-$8-$8 half hold 'em/half Omaha high. They occasionally have a $4-$8 or a $15-$30 Omaha high game. I've seen an "interest" list for the PLO game (with $10/$25 blinds!), but have never seen it dealt.

The dealers there are never that great, but they all know how to deal the Omaha games, and the players in the spread half&half game all seem to know how to play i.e. I haven't seen anyone misread their hand. (They know the rules, anyway. Most will see every flop with any four cards.)

[IceKing]

Omaha Hi-Lo, Omaha Hi-Lo Split, Omaha Hi-Lo 8 or better, Omaha8, O8, same game. In Vegas when people talk about Omaha, they mean Omaha8, I think. In Europe Omaha usually means Hi only. When the game is Hi-Lo, it says Omaha Hi-Lo or Omaha8.

What you said about deviation is true in Omaha Hi-Lo, but in Omaha Hi-only, deviation is much bigger, and bankroll requirements bigger than in Holdem.

During the WSOP there will be PLO(PotLimitOmahaHiOnly) action in Vegas.

[vegasbob]

they also have omaha high only at sunset station in henderson they play 4-8 there

[PhatCasino]

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they also have omaha high only at sunset station in henderson they play 4-8 there

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so far the only places in vegas i've found a consistent game of Omaha Hi has been sunset and boulder...

sunset was full of old people, and i mean old... kinda scary if you ask me as im used to a more younger crowd and not seeing people raise with aces full sorta baffles me... the same people play like solid rocks and only raise nuts, and will only do it once.

boulder on the other hand is ALSO full of old people (I guess omaha is an old peoples game?) however boulder has a rougher crowd and so is the game.... I say rougher because these guys look like they been down and out for years.... alot more chasers at boulder, etc....

there are four typical type of players at boulder/sunset omaha:

1. asian lady 50+/fat white lady 40+/old grandma type 65+
2. solid rock 70+ OR asian dude 50+
3. compulsive 40+ dude with no idea & dirty fingers
4. 50+ dude who knows how to play (leave the table already)

keep in mind that sometimes #1 is a rock, however she will always deviate back to that chase once she has a big loss, especially to #3

#2 has a bedtime of about 11:00pm, so that'll open up more seats to #3, who seems to dominate the game at boulder. While at sunset #4's and #1's dominate the game, which makes it a drop more challenging

HOWEVER im 100% sure that both of these games are extremely profitable..

just my take on things, I should probably get back to playing hold-em [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[trillig]

The one time I played Omaha High at Boulder Station, ACJ and I were up against a lineup of ALL #3 clueless gambl00rs deluxe, neither of us could hit a thing though, I definitely recommend the game!

Sample of what I recall:

Showdown of 5 players, ALL 5 hands I wouldn't call PF with YOUR $.

One guy played ALL SPADES: J752 type shiite.

Seeing hands, no one except the BB should play was the norm.

Would you cap PF with 99Q4?

-Bri

[SpaceAce]

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1. asian lady 50+/fat white lady 40+/old grandma type 65+
2. solid rock 70+ OR asian dude 50+
3. compulsive 40+ dude with no idea & dirty fingers
4. 50+ dude who knows how to play (leave the table already)

While at sunset #4's and #1's dominate the game, which makes it a drop more challenging


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I can literally see Sunset Station from my porch and I've put in a lot of hours there. The idea that anyone who knows how to play is the dominant personality at the Omaha table there is bizarre. While there are a couple of regulars who are not clueless, that game is overall a sucker-fest.

SpaceAce

[PhatCasino]

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What you said about deviation is true in Omaha Hi-Lo, but in Omaha Hi-only, deviation is much bigger, and bankroll requirements bigger than in Holdem.


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i was brought to believe because your more selective about your hand in Omaha (pre-flop and especially post-flop) and your usually playing for the nuts... that isn't the case...

-can someone elaborate on the comparision of bankroll & deviation between hold-em and omaha?