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06-11-2005, 10:44 PM
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Your action on this early hand from the CO?
Party $50.
I took most of the time bank thinking about this one. I wasn't sure what to do. Please vote and post opinions. Thanks. Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) converter SB (t1145) BB (t625) UTG (t2455) UTG+1 (t910) MP1 (t1360) MP2 (t925) MP3 (t780) Hero (t990) Button (t810) Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t100</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t400</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero??? 
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06-11-2005, 10:51 PM
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Re: Your action on this early hand from the CO?
Im just not willing to open raise from the cutoff and fold to a reraise against a typical partypoker player. The position of your raise should increase his hand range too much for me to fold here. Probably folding isn't terrible though...if I raised from an earlier position I'd ube a lot more likely to fold.
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06-11-2005, 10:53 PM
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Re: Your action on this early hand from the CO?
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Im just not willing to open raise from the cutoff and fold to a reraise against a typical partypoker player. The position of your raise should increase his hand range too much for me to fold here. Probably folding isn't terrible though...if I raised from an earlier position I'd ube a lot more likely to fold. [/ QUOTE ] I agree with you, and had this been level 3 instead, I might be more inclined to push. I don't think most players view CO open-raises in level 2 as "steals," per say, and although I think it increases his hand range by a good amount, I would still fold.
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#5
06-11-2005, 10:54 PM
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Re: Your action on this early hand from the CO?
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Im just not willing to open raise from the cutoff and fold to a reraise against a typical partypoker player. The position of your raise should increase his hand range too much for me to fold here. Probably folding isn't terrible though...if I raised from an earlier position I'd ube a lot more likely to fold. [/ QUOTE ] Two things though: 1. The size of his raise is worrisome. It shouts two things: monster or donk, and I don't know which one he is. 2. A big reraise here most often represents a range of hands that JJ is a strong favorite against, but it can't be 3:2. Probably between 3:2 and 11:9. I have a healthy stack and it's early. Do I need to take that edge now?
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#7
06-11-2005, 11:09 PM
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Re: Your action on this early hand from the CO?
I fold here.
But whenever someone makes a raise like this, most of the time it is AA, KK or AK. Unless for the few that have Q3o. So my question to you is...what about if you had QQ instead? I usually push QQ and fold JJ here but if villian has AK the majority of the time why would I fold JJ and call with QQ? I am still losing to AA/KK and the same coinflip vs AK than I am with JJ. My strategy makes no sense does it? Need some help with this one...
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06-12-2005, 02:04 AM
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Re: Your action on this early hand from the CO?
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I usually push QQ and fold JJ here but if villian has AK the majority of the time why would I fold JJ and call with QQ? I am still losing to AA/KK and the same coinflip vs AK than I am with JJ. My strategy makes no sense does it? Need some help with this one... [/ QUOTE ] Don't forget some people Play AQs/KQs like they are premiums. QQ has a huge edge against these hands, while JJ is still a coinflip advantage. It makes sense to treat QQ as a stronger hand (which it is)
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#10
06-12-2005, 02:22 AM
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Re: Your action on this early hand from the CO?
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[ QUOTE ] I usually push QQ and fold JJ here but if villian has AK the majority of the time why would I fold JJ and call with QQ? I am still losing to AA/KK and the same coinflip vs AK than I am with JJ. My strategy makes no sense does it? Need some help with this one... [/ QUOTE ] Don't forget some people Play AQs/KQs like they are premiums. QQ has a huge edge against these hands, while JJ is still a coinflip advantage. It makes sense to treat QQ as a stronger hand (which it is) [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, I wouldn't be posting this hand if I had QQ. I would have happily pushed preflop and accepted the results with full confidence that I made the right play. To some other posters who responded to my post about the range of hands: Even though the raise is at the 'suspicious' level there are still a serious amount of donks at the $50s. But I've also run into a couple of clever players who I believe will raise a medium amount in the hopes of projecting strength. Except in specific bubble situations, JJ is still likely to be a favorite here regardless of the size of the reraise.
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