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#1
06-11-2005, 07:41 PM
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Bottom 2 pair with 3-flush on flop
Haven't played a lot of hands with these guys but both have been somewhat agressive post-flop (AG factor 2+).
Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero checks. Flop: (3.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ...?</font> 
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#3
06-11-2005, 08:30 PM
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Re: Bottom 2 pair with 3-flush on flop
Given this:
[ QUOTE ] If the turn card is a [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or 4, you might have to fold. [/ QUOTE ] Why this: [ QUOTE ] 3-bet that flop. [/ QUOTE ]
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#4
06-11-2005, 08:41 PM
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Re: Bottom 2 pair with 3-flush on flop
[ QUOTE ]
Given this: [ QUOTE ] If the turn card is a [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or 4, you might have to fold. [/ QUOTE ] Why this: [ QUOTE ] 3-bet that flop. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] Chances are you have the best hand and both guys are chasing. You are also drawing to a boat. Lots of value.
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#5
06-11-2005, 09:13 PM
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Re: Bottom 2 pair with 3-flush on flop
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] Given this: [ QUOTE ] If the turn card is a [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or 4, you might have to fold. [/ QUOTE ] Why this: [ QUOTE ] 3-bet that flop. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] Chances are you have the best hand and both guys are chasing. You are also drawing to a boat. Lots of value. [/ QUOTE ] How about we call two cold. Then raise the turn? These guys won't likely fold to a 3-bet (and they shouldn't). But I think that your equity increases tremendously on a turn safecard.
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#6
06-11-2005, 09:15 PM
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Re: Bottom 2 pair with 3-flush on flop
he is not raising to get them to fold, he is raising for value. less than 1% of the time you will flop a flush when holding 2 of the same suit. pump chips into that pot and cash in on it when they miss their flush draws.
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#7
06-11-2005, 08:40 PM
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Re: Bottom 2 pair with 3-flush on flop
id call and bet out on a blank turn
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#8
06-13-2005, 02:43 AM
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Re: Bottom 2 pair with 3-flush on flop
Thanks for the input, it looks like a toss-up between raise or call.
I decided to raise and hope that they were both on draws, and because I still had the other 2 3's and 2 deuces in case someone hits their flush which would win me a bunch. CO called me, blank on the turn, I bet he calls, 4 comes on the river, I bet he raises, I make the call just to see, and he turns over A9, no [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
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