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06-11-2005, 02:03 PM
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Any merit to this pf fold?
I'm out of position against a lot of unpredictable opponents. Should I just sack up and cap this?
Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP 3-bets</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">Hero folds, BB folds</font>, UTG calls. 
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#2
06-11-2005, 02:54 PM
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Re: Any merit to this pf fold?
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Should I just sack up and cap this? [/ QUOTE ] I would.
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#3
06-11-2005, 02:57 PM
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Re: Any merit to this pf fold?
I am folding AK pre-flop at $5/$10 six max only if the hand of God reaches down and operates my trackball for me.
If both the raiser and reraiser are super-rocks, I might not need God's help but I don't think I've seen a super-rock at $5/$10 six max, yet. SpaceAce
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#4
06-11-2005, 03:00 PM
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Re: Any merit to this pf fold?
I don't play 5/10, but I know at 2/4 if it were 4 bets to me and all the opponents were unknowns, I'd call.
A read of a stone-cold rock on either the 3-bettor or 4-bettor and I... still probably call.
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#6
06-11-2005, 04:34 PM
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Re: Any merit to this pf fold?
On a typical 5/10 6max table & OOP, I just call the 3-bet. But there is no way in hell that I'm folding this preflop...even if both players are rockier than Bobby & Whitney's marriage, you have to see this flop. If you whiff the flop & they're still trying to outraise each other, then you can think about a fold.
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#7
06-11-2005, 06:04 PM
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Re: Any merit to this pf fold?
Are you smooth calling here for deception purposes and/or to make it easier for you to get away from your hand UI on the turn?
It seems like capping would be the better play against clueless opponents, though against observant ones you might smooth call some of the time for deception purposes. Also against very LAGgy opponents, though I don't know how much of a raising war you want to get into with TPTK when you do hit the flop.
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#8
06-11-2005, 06:11 PM
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Re: Any merit to this pf fold?
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Are you smooth calling here for deception purposes and/or to make it easier for you to get away from your hand UI on the turn? [/ QUOTE ] A little of both. I also want to see if it gets capped by UTG or not, and set myself up for a flop c/r if it's checked to MP & he bets. If it's 2 bets to me & I'm still holding A high after the flop, I'd fold it against 2 unknowns. AK can be a tough hand to play from OOP vs. 2 opponents who both like their hands, but I think it becomes a little bit easier if you don't define your hand preflop. Most of the time.
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#9
06-11-2005, 06:49 PM
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Re: Any merit to this pf fold?
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Are you smooth calling here for deception purposes and/or to make it easier for you to get away from your hand UI on the turn? It seems like capping would be the better play against clueless opponents, though against observant ones you might smooth call some of the time for deception purposes. Also against very LAGgy opponents, though I don't know how much of a raising war you want to get into with TPTK when you do hit the flop. [/ QUOTE ] the reason i would smooth call would be to set up a check raise if need be.
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#10
06-11-2005, 05:13 PM
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Re: Any merit to this pf fold?
There certainly are circumstances I could conceive of folding AKo preflop. Anyone who says that you should never fold it would be wrong. But you have a strong hand (in a 6-max game no less), and it's not even capped to you. It's not like you have to go to showdown with A high if you miss. Pull up your skirt and play some poker.
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