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Old 06-10-2005, 01:22 AM
jskills jskills is offline
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Default KJ from the BB- UTG won\'t go away

No reads on table yet, only played a few orbits.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: (6.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, CO folds, Button calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, Button folds.

River: (6.75 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero ?
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Old 06-10-2005, 01:30 AM
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Default Re: KJ from the BB- UTG won\'t go away

The only question is whether you're better off value-betting or checking to induce a bluff. I'd prefer to bet without a read.
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Old 06-10-2005, 11:35 AM
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Default Re: KJ from the BB- UTG won\'t go away

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The only question is whether you're better off value-betting or checking to induce a bluff. I'd prefer to bet without a read.

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I was thinking the same thing, but one thing that occurred to me is to consider the holding of villan. Wouldn't the average player holding a J on the flop raise? Likewise, wouldn't I get raised on the turn if he held a K?

So does that not leave us with a strong possibility of villan holding a ten, based on the way the hand was played?

Not sure if I'm overthinking here ...
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Old 06-10-2005, 11:39 AM
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Default Re: KJ from the BB- UTG won\'t go away

I haven't played enough 3/6 to have a feel for what the "average player" does, but at 2/4 and down you're just as likely if not more so to see top pair call you down. Likewise with a turned overcard. As it is, those can be costly sometimes, raising a turned or rivered overcard that pairs you up, so sometimes people just keep calling.
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Old 06-10-2005, 11:57 AM
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Default Re: KJ from the BB- UTG won\'t go away

Also, what's the plan if you bet and get raised on the river? Crying call?
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Old 06-10-2005, 11:59 AM
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Default Re: KJ from the BB- UTG won\'t go away

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Also, what's the plan if you bet and get raised on the river? Crying call?

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bet/call. yawn.

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Old 06-10-2005, 12:32 PM
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Default Re: KJ from the BB- UTG won\'t go away

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bet/call. yawn.

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Are you trying to tell me something? If you don't care or find it boring, why saying anything at all?
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Old 06-10-2005, 01:09 PM
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Default Re: KJ from the BB- UTG won\'t go away

i'm telling you what the play is, and that it's fairly standard. i cared enough to answer.
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Old 06-10-2005, 03:04 AM
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Default Re: KJ from the BB- UTG won\'t go away

This is such an easy value bet.
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Old 06-10-2005, 03:16 AM
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Default Re: KJ from the BB- UTG won\'t go away

You bet right?
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