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Old 06-09-2005, 02:06 PM
mockingbird mockingbird is offline
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Default How to Play KK when A flops?

Don't have any read on Villain since I just joined table

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 :#A500AF(Villain)/ raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, UTG+1 :#A500AF(Villain)/ calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Villain checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Villain raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Villain bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (8.25 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Villain bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.25 BB
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Old 06-09-2005, 02:10 PM
A_C_Slater A_C_Slater is offline
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Default Re: How to Play KK when A flops?

Without a read I play it the same and if he had lead out the flop I would just call/call/call.
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Old 06-09-2005, 02:12 PM
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Default Re: How to Play KK when A flops?

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Without a read I play it the same and if he had lead out the flop I would just call/call/call.

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call me weak tight, but i'm dumping on the turn.

Sarge[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
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Old 06-09-2005, 02:14 PM
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Default Re: How to Play KK when A flops?

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Without a read I play it the same and if he had lead out the flop I would just call/call/call.

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call me weak tight, but i'm dumping on the turn.

Sarge[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

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why would you call the flop raise? you're not getting odds to hit your set and he's betting the turn approx. 100% of the time. I think calling the flop intending to fold on the turn is throwing money away.
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Old 06-09-2005, 02:36 PM
Brash620 Brash620 is offline
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Default Re: How to Play KK when A flops?

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I think calling the flop intending to fold on the turn is throwing money away.

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Agreed.

A preflod raise UTG and a check raise on the flop looks like he was playing something like A,K or A,Q. I say drop it on the flop.
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Old 06-09-2005, 02:39 PM
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Default Re: How to Play KK when A flops?

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I think calling the flop intending to fold on the turn is throwing money away.

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Agreed.

A preflod raise UTG and a check raise on the flop looks like he was playing something like A,K or A,Q. I say drop it on the flop.

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When UTG checkraises, drop it on the floooooop...
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Old 06-09-2005, 07:59 PM
Sarge85 Sarge85 is offline
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Default Re: How to Play KK when A flops?

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Without a read I play it the same and if he had lead out the flop I would just call/call/call.

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call me weak tight, but i'm dumping on the turn.

Sarge[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

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why would you call the flop raise? you're not getting odds to hit your set and he's betting the turn approx. 100% of the time. I think calling the flop intending to fold on the turn is throwing money away.

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Your probably right. but people do goofy things on the turn. IE I call, then he checks the turn, trying for a trifecta, or maybe he's on something else - i don't know - but enough that i'd be curious to see what he does do.

Sarge[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
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Old 06-09-2005, 02:39 PM
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Without a read I play it the same and if he had lead out the flop I would just call/call/call.

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call me weak tight, but i'm dumping on the turn.

Sarge[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

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I'm happy to see that someone here has read my book.

Fit or folding,

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Old 06-09-2005, 03:33 PM
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Default Re: How to Play KK when A flops?

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Without a read I play it the same and if he had lead out the flop I would just call/call/call.

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call me weak tight, but i'm dumping on the turn.

Sarge[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

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I'm happy to see that someone here has read my book.

Fit or folding,

Lee Jones.

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I just wanted to go on record and say that this is, by far, the lamest gimmick account I've seen.

Carry on.
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Old 06-09-2005, 02:11 PM
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Default Re: How to Play KK when A flops?

Without a read, I would play it exactly like you did.
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