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06-08-2005, 07:40 PM
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Where are the great plays at the WSOP?
Well, I'm exhausted. Sixty hours of play so far at the WSOP. I'm sorry to say that I'm stuck $2000 in tournaments, and probably done with them until the end of the month. The $2-$5 NL games are wonderful, with many excited, weak players (I watched one such player run $200 into $3000+ at my table at the Bellagio - and that's a $200 max buy game).
I've played as high as $20/$40 and also some $10-$25 blind NL here, and I'm still looking for the great plays/great players. Where are they? Even in the tournaments, I can count the number of really good moves I've seen on one hand, and the great plays, well I'm still waiting. Perhaps I'm spoiled (and have seen almost everything) in the 500,000 online hands in the past, or maybe I am missing something, but at the limits I'm playing, the play is amazingly straightforward. I'm happy with my play, happy to be winning, and it's been great catching up with some players and also talking with some people I haven't had a chance to talk to before (really, everybody you could want to see is here from the world of poker), and the idea that we are not that different from each other keeps coming through, so anybody that is trying to move up in limits, keep working on it! I don't see much difference between Party $5-$10 and the $20/$40 here. I really enjoyed James Woods - this guy probably gets a million dollars for a movie role, but he's playing in a $1060 single table sat. and was so happy to split with another guy at the table for $5k - he just loves poker. That's nice to see. Again, I don't want to sound egotistical (because I know there are plenty of better players here, or I would have scored in a tourny, but I'm also going to blame some of it on going card-dead) but what do you other players think about the middle limit play at local casinos, and also here (if you happen to be at the WSOP)? I just don't see that much of the "excellent" play that I was expecting. Y'all take care. Dogmeat [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 
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06-10-2005, 01:31 AM
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Re: Where are the great plays at the WSOP?
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That's a terrible assumption to make. A player with 70k in front of them could be just as bad as the guy playing every pot in 2-4 LHE. A bankroll does NOT define your abilities. [/ QUOTE ] Doubtful.
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06-10-2005, 02:48 AM
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Re: Where are the great plays at the WSOP?
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[ QUOTE ] That's a terrible assumption to make. A player with 70k in front of them could be just as bad as the guy playing every pot in 2-4 LHE. A bankroll does NOT define your abilities. [/ QUOTE ] Doubtful. [/ QUOTE ] Bankroll can be taken as slight evidence of ability for pros, but there are clear exceptions. Stu Ungar, pro, highly regarded player, was often broke due to drug problems. As Barry Greenstein said, alot of theses big tournament names are not actually as good as the TV announcers claim, and many of them are broke aswell.
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06-10-2005, 02:55 AM
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Re: Where are the great plays at the WSOP?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] That's a terrible assumption to make. A player with 70k in front of them could be just as bad as the guy playing every pot in 2-4 LHE. A bankroll does NOT define your abilities. [/ QUOTE ] Doubtful. [/ QUOTE ] Bankroll can be taken as slight evidence of ability for pros, but there are clear exceptions. Stu Ungar, pro, highly regarded player, was often broke due to drug problems. As Barry Greenstein said, alot of theses big tournament names are not actually as good as the TV announcers claim, and many of them are broke aswell. [/ QUOTE ] My point is, I'll take the guy with 70k in front of him in a 50-100 NL game any day against a guy who plays 2-4 limit and plays every hand, and live with the results.
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#8
06-10-2005, 07:00 AM
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Re: Where are the great plays at the WSOP?
Thank you. Finally someone making sense.
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#9
06-10-2005, 10:50 AM
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Re: Where are the great plays at the WSOP?
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Thank you. Finally someone making sense. [/ QUOTE ] He doesn't agree with your ridiculous contention that a 15/30 player could be the best limit player in the world. I promise you that.
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#10
06-08-2005, 08:47 PM
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Re: Where are the great plays at the WSOP?
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I've played as high as $20/$40 and also some $10-$25 blind NL here, and I'm still looking for the great plays/great players. Where are they? Even in the tournaments, I can count the number of really good moves I've seen on one hand, and the great plays, well I'm still waiting. [/ QUOTE ] What is it that you think defines a great poker player? Lots of moves, lots of plays? At the level you're playing the best players are the ones smart enough not to get off on making moves. Your fascination with FPS is likely to cause you a lot of trouble down the road.
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