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Old 06-08-2005, 06:39 PM
gobboboy gobboboy is offline
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Default Monster AA pot, scary looking 4th street betting.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: (7.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 caps</font>, CO calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (9.75 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO caps</font>, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

River: (21.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls, MP1 calls $1 (All-In).

Final Pot: 27.75 BB
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Old 06-08-2005, 06:42 PM
Twitch1977 Twitch1977 is offline
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Default Re: Monster AA pot, scary looking 4th street betting.

If we knew the suits of the cards it would help.

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Old 06-08-2005, 06:52 PM
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Default Re: Monster AA pot, scary looking 4th street betting.

Sorry, C&amp;P'ed from another forum and the suits didn't work. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 06-09-2005, 06:55 AM
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Default Re: Monster AA pot, scary looking 4th street betting.

How would a KQx, AKx be played in this hand at the turn?
Could someone bet the turn for value with this hand or would that be completly wrong with that flop action (fearing a set)?
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Old 06-09-2005, 07:40 AM
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Default Re: Monster AA pot, scary looking 4th street betting.

Dump the turn when its 2 back to you

edit: whoever shows you AK, take a note down and isolate his laggy ass.
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Old 06-09-2005, 06:10 AM
Iron Tigran Iron Tigran is offline
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Default Re: Monster AA pot, scary looking 4th street betting.

With no reads, I'd say you could be up against AK and TT, both of which can call 2 cold PF.
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Old 06-09-2005, 06:19 AM
Phlebas Phlebas is offline
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Default Re: Monster AA pot, scary looking 4th street betting.

The river isn't scary. MP1 and CO wouldn't be 3-betting/capping the turn with gutshot draws. Without any reads, most likely you are up against at least one set and should probably have folded on the turn when it was 2 to you. If you don't think that a set is likely then you should have capped the flop and led out on the turn (but I would still have folded if it was then 2 bets back to me).
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Old 06-09-2005, 06:43 AM
Iq75 Iq75 is offline
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Default Re: Monster AA pot, scary looking 4th street betting.

The action on the turn indicates that you are behind on the turn (one should not play flush draw like that on the turn, but who knows whitout reads...).

I would put them on TT and AK or KT if one of them coldcalls very loosely (it is also possible that MP1 has KK, but does not want to "loose customers"). In that scenario you are drawing to 2 outs. I think that this one should be folded in the turn when it was 2 to you, but i'm not sure if i could have done it my self.
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Old 06-09-2005, 08:18 AM
Fantam Fantam is offline
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Default Re: Monster AA pot, scary looking 4th street betting.

I think the flop betting looks pretty scary also!

When the flop is raised and 3-bet I think that you are most likely looking at a couple of sets being out there. I would have preferred to fold to the flop 3-bet.

Anyway if you decide to see the turn, I would definitely fold to the turn raise unimproved. I think it is now clear that you are beaten and have to hit an A to win.

Unless you had a very good read on both your opponents being total maniacs, I think you stayed in this hand for too long.
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Old 06-09-2005, 08:34 AM
Chris Daddy Cool Chris Daddy Cool is offline
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Default Re: Monster AA pot, scary looking 4th street betting.

unless your opponents are complete nutjobs you should be folding this turn when its two bets to you.
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