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I think the dark bet is dumb
Cantebury 8/16. I got ripped by villain here for not betting the turn. Young punk.
I raise in the CO after 1 limper with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Punk calls in the BB. limper calls. Flop (3 ways) J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] punk leads, limper folds, I raise, punk calls. Turn: 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] check, I check, punk then declares "bet dark" River: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] I raise, punk calls. jackass. |
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Re: I think the dark bet is dumb
I think I agree. What did he have, JT?
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Re: I think the dark bet is dumb
I would bet the turn with my 15 outs (plus your hand may even be best on the turn as is.) He was right, but his river dark bet was far worse than what you did.
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Re: I think the dark bet is dumb
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I would bet the turn with my 15 outs (plus your hand may even be best on the turn as is.) He was right, but his river dark bet was far worse than what you did. [/ QUOTE ] Why bet the turn? He lead the flop. He's not folding a better hand. |
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Re: I think the dark bet is dumb
He couldn't have 10-9 out of the BB? Plus who cares if he has the better hand...you're likely to have 15 outs. Maybe he's jus betting an 8 or a pair of 7's to see what you do. Automatically checking behind on the turn with this holding is a big mistake (not saying it isn't correct to do sometimes). My guess is if you whiffed on the river and he bet, you'd pay the punk off cause your turn checked showed weakness (since it basically telegraphed overs). If you wouldn't pay him off, you could get yourself bluffed on the end. I just think betting the turn w/ such a strong draw is far superior to your line.
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Re: I think the dark bet is dumb
Checking the turn is fine here a lot of the time.
GoT |
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Re: I think the dark bet is dumb
If he only has 15 outs (and that's at best here), a bet here is not even close to being a good idea. Villian almost definitely caught a piece of that flop (unless he regularly bluffs into 2 opponents, 1 of whom raised PF), so there's no way I can believe Hero has a chance to win at showdown here without improving. Hero also determined (I think correctly) that he has little fold equity here, if any. If you have no fold equity and no chance of having the best hand right now, it's impossible for a bet here to be good. Also if villian is stupid enough to bet in the dark after you practically tell him "I have either AhKh or AhQh" then checking has extra value.
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Re: I think the dark bet is dumb
I think its fair, if ur allowed to dark check..a dark bet should be allowed to.
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Re: I think the dark bet is dumb
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I think its fair, if ur allowed to dark check..a dark bet should be allowed to. [/ QUOTE ] I never said I thought it was unfair. I just think it is completely idiotic. |
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Re: I think the dark bet is dumb
Instead of raising the river right away, you could have kicked him in the nuts, THEN raised the river. Friggin' punk.
al |
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