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Old 06-06-2005, 02:40 AM
mscags mscags is offline
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Default KK and A flops

These always give me trouble. Is this an easy laydown, or something you just call down. Villian is pretty new and I don't have a real read on him yet.

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+2 folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (6.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8.25 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has Ah 3d (one pair, aces).
Hero has Kh Ks (one pair, kings).
Outcome: BB wins 8.25 BB. </font>
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Old 06-06-2005, 02:42 AM
DA MICRO MASTAH DA MICRO MASTAH is offline
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Default Re: KK and A flops

I usually limp PF in this position. If someone raises behind you then you have an easy fold, otherwise you might get a cheap flop and possibly flop your set (the whole reason you're playing this hand of course).

Given this terrible terrible flop and EP betting out into two players (notice that this kind of bet cannot be abluff) I think you have an easy bluff raise. Fold to a three-bet of course.
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Old 06-06-2005, 02:43 AM
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Default Re: KK and A flops

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I usually limp PF in this position. If someone raises behind you then you have an easy fold, otherwise you might get a cheap flop and possibly flop your set (the whole reason you're playing this hand of course).

Given this terrible terrible flop and EP betting out into two players (notice that this kind of bet cannot be abluff) I think you have an easy bluff raise. Fold to a three-bet of course.

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Old 06-06-2005, 02:58 AM
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Default Re: KK and A flops

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I usually limp PF in this position. If someone raises behind you then you have an easy fold, otherwise you might get a cheap flop and possibly flop your set (the whole reason you're playing this hand of course).

Given this terrible terrible flop and EP betting out into two players (notice that this kind of bet cannot be abluff) I think you have an easy bluff raise. Fold to a three-bet of course.

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Old 06-06-2005, 11:29 AM
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Default Re: KK and A flops

are you on crack?
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Old 06-06-2005, 02:42 AM
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Default Re: KK and A flops

1) Don't post results.

2) I fold the flop against a typical player.
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Old 06-06-2005, 02:59 AM
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Default Re: KK and A flops

Jakesta, if you're foling KK just because an A flops then that is a habitual mistake that you get to make over and over.
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Old 06-06-2005, 03:08 AM
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Jakesta, if you're foling KK just because an A flops then that is a habitual mistake that you get to make over and over.

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It's not a mistake.
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Old 06-06-2005, 03:13 AM
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Jakesta, if you're foling KK just because an A flops then that is a habitual mistake that you get to make over and over.

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It's not a mistake.

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It is when you're HU with position in a 7.5 SB pot against a typical unknown 2/4 player with a hand that beats a wide enough range of hands that he could be betting.
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Old 06-06-2005, 03:21 AM
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Jakesta, have you even read my book?
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