Aggravating KJ hand

ViperGTS · #1 06-06-2005, 12:51 AM

Brand new to the table, 2nd or 3rd hand since I sat down.

PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. MP2 posts a blind of $0.25.
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls, MP2 (poster) checks, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, BB raises, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Flop: (16 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (8 players)
SB bets, BB calls, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Turn: (11.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (7 players)
SB bets, BB folds, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls, MP3 folds, CO raises, Button folds, SB 3-bets, UTG+2 folds, Hero folds, CO calls.

River: (19.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, CO bets, SB calls $0.50 (All-In).

Final Pot: 21.50 BB

Needless to say I would have won this hand, I'd like to at least console myself by saying I did the right thing.

Someone obviously likes their hand, it's two bets back to me with only 4 outs to have a real shot at winning (and two of those potentially making someone else a flush). SB is nearly all in, so even if I did catch the 10 I'm not going to get much more money out of him.

Good bad or too close to matter? Should I have even been in this far? I think up to that point I was OK, obviously the pre-flop raise was unfortunate.

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Transference · #2 06-06-2005, 12:57 AM

Why not raise preflop?

therockofgibraltar · #3 06-06-2005, 12:59 AM

I usually raise KJo from MP when there is only one limper before me. I am trying to get my aggression stats up so I usually raise/fold if there is no limpers (or just one) before me.

shadow29 · #4 06-06-2005, 01:01 AM

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I am trying to get my aggression stats up so I usually raise/fold if there is no limpers (or just one) before me.

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This is probably one of the worst reasons to raise I have ever heard.

Weatherhead03 · #5 06-06-2005, 01:04 AM

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This is probably one of the worst reasons to raise I have ever heard.

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Jakesta · #6 06-06-2005, 01:04 AM

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This is probably one of the worst reasons to raise I have ever heard.

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therockofgibraltar · #7 06-06-2005, 02:02 AM

heck and I learned it from davidross....

edit: btw, I don't think like "oh, my aggressions stats needs to go up --> I raise". I mean that because I lack aggression preflop, this is pretty good way to increase it. If there is no one in and you have playable hand, think raising. Is this really so bad?

ViperGTS · #8 06-06-2005, 01:06 AM

Wow I hadn't even considered that.

Probably why I'm still nowhere near aggressive enough.

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Deamon2 · #9 06-06-2005, 01:10 AM

I have trouble raising KQo and KJo for some reason. It makes me feel very uncomfortable.

TripleH68 · #10 06-06-2005, 01:41 AM

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Should I have even been in this far? I think up to that point I was OK, obviously the pre-flop raise was unfortunate.

Viper GTS

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I would not want to be in a multi-way hand out of position with KJo. Someone can correct me if I am wrong, but unless you are excellent post-flop I don't like this play.

If you are going to play this hand I would rasie preflop. Given your lack of reads I'd muck(at this point I am tighter than most).