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Old 06-01-2005, 09:48 PM
gildwulf gildwulf is offline
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Default KK vs JTT flop at 10+1

I have KK in the big blind at 10/15 level (2nd hand).

2 limpers and small blind completes.

I raise to 75 and get 2 callers.

The flop comes JTT.

I bet the pot, UTG reraises all-in for another 500.

No reads.

Call?

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Old 06-01-2005, 09:52 PM
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Default Re: KK vs JTT flop at 10+1

call.
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Old 06-01-2005, 10:01 PM
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Default Re: KK vs JTT flop at 10+1

Instacall.
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Old 06-02-2005, 02:36 AM
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Default Re: KK vs JTT flop at 10+1

He has a J or a pair smaller than your KK a lot more often than he has a T. Call.
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Old 06-02-2005, 02:39 AM
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Default Re: KK vs JTT flop at 10+1

Is there any level at which this isn't an easy call, assuming no reads? (serious question)
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Old 06-02-2005, 12:54 PM
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Default Re: KK vs JTT flop at 10+1

The lower the level the worse calling is. Because at the lower levels the less often someone who flops Trip Ts will think over betting the pot is a bad idea.

And I'd guess playing really high calling might be bad as well. Because people might think you are capable of calling a big overbet. However, you won't be up against a T here nearly as often.
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Old 06-02-2005, 01:35 PM
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Default Re: KK vs JTT flop at 10+1

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The lower the level the worse calling is. Because at the lower levels the less often someone who flops Trip Ts will think over betting the pot is a bad idea.

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I'm not sure it is a bad idea. BB has shown considerable strength both preflop and on the flop. Getting check-called after making big PF and flop raises on this board is going to slow me down most of the time; I think it's probably very hard to extract any more with a T unless your opponent has a T as well, at this point. Plus, his pushing his last 500 in isn't an overbet, it's a reraise of ~80% of the pot after he calls the 225. Hero will be getting > 2:1 odds to call this, which I expect him to do, given his strength. I think pushing is fine here with a T.

That said, I think people will also push with 99, AJ-QJ, etc.
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Old 06-02-2005, 01:02 PM
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Default Re: KK vs JTT flop at 10+1

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Is there any level at which this isn't an easy call, assuming no reads? (serious question)

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You mean blind level or buy in level?

I play the 20s to the 50s, and I'll call this at those levels... it's just too early in the game to have much for reads, and there's plenty of donkeys who make this play with a hand you beat.
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Old 06-02-2005, 05:55 AM
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Default Re: KK vs JTT flop at 10+1

Easy call but you should have raised more preflop.
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Old 06-02-2005, 07:46 AM
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Easy call but you should have raised more preflop.

[/ QUOTE ]Yes. You have the best hand at the table unless someone's playing Aces cute but you'll be out of position probably after the flop. Make a bigger preflop raise.
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