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Missing the flop
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 5 handed) converter
Button ($36.4) SB ($71) BB ($55.07) UTG ($341.9) Hero ($211.1) Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.5. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, Button calls $4, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>. Flop: ($9.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5.5</font>, Button calls $5.50. Turn: ($20.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $15</font>, Button calls $26.90 (All-In), Hero folds. Final Pot: $62.40 Sorry for preflop play, ATo sucks in NL and OOP it sucks even more. It was sheer stupidity. What should I do at the flop/turn?? Button was very passive and often calling down top two pair/stuff. I felt he would fold if he had no flush/monster, thats why I bet the turn... |
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Re: Missing the flop
check/fold the flop- you're OOP vs a short stack
unless you have a tight image and villain is weak (then bet harder on the flop (closer to pot) - shut down if called, fold after being played back at |
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Re: Missing the flop
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(then bet harder on the flop (closer to pot) - shut down if called, fold after being played back at [/ QUOTE ] After being called on the flop, check-fold the rest of the way. Although I can see your logic on the turn bet, and this play may work the majority of the time. |
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Re: Missing the flop
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check/fold the flop- you're OOP vs a short stack unless you have a tight image and villain is weak (then bet harder on the flop (closer to pot) - shut down if called, fold after being played back at [/ QUOTE ] Actually this is a great hand to play against a short stack even OOP. Ideal in fact. |
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Re: Missing the flop
Help me to understand this comment.
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Re: Missing the flop
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Help me to understand this comment. [/ QUOTE ] IMO too many people get involved short stacked without considering the fact that they better have a strong hand to continue playing it post-flop. Sooo... you're going to force the short stack to make a decision on the turn to play for all his chips or not. That's good poker. Now at higher limits, I think this logic reverses obviously, people understand stack ratio's much better. |
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Re: Missing the flop
I can certainly see this logic in tournament play, but I am still too dense to follow how it applies to a cash game. Thank you for explaining.
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Re: Missing the flop
Any reads??
5 handed this play isn't sheer stupidity. If you're going to play it like this then I'd bet slightly more on the flop (2/3 pot) and if I'm called, then I shut down on the turn. |
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Re: Missing the flop
i really dont dislike your pre-flop play at all 5 handed if u feel u can out play the players at your table. i see myself playing the same way 6 handed and find its pretty much a coin flip in the essence that half the time you get away with it the other half u get called by medioce crap and u lose a big chunk of chips. i guess after u get called on the flop its time to shut down like everyone suggested but short handed i can't help but fire 2 shells at some pots. i dont think its a bad line, but against short stacks be prepared to middle pair call u down and win.
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