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Old 05-24-2005, 05:56 AM
aceferret aceferret is offline
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Default do you see the flop?

2/4 NL, villian tight conservative UTG(250) limps, Hero(450) tight aggresive raises to 15 UTG+1 w/ AQs , folds around villian makes it 40 to go. Hero folds

good fold?
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Old 05-24-2005, 09:52 AM
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Default Re: do you see the flop?

I would call that a good fold, yes.
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Old 05-24-2005, 11:47 AM
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Default Re: do you see the flop?

Better than 2-1 against 1 opponent? Suited overcards? Position?

I like a call. If he is tight, his flop play should define his hand well.
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Old 05-24-2005, 12:46 PM
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Default Re: do you see the flop?

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Better than 2-1 against 1 opponent? Suited overcards? Position?

I like a call. If he is tight, his flop play should define his hand well.

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Villain's already defined his hand with the ol' limp-reraise special. AA-JJ, AKs. Really, with a tight opponent, AA-KK.

If the stacks were deeper, hero could play, but hero is currently being asked to play a dominated hand for a max win of 12x the raise, so hero should fold.
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Old 05-24-2005, 01:04 PM
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Default Re: do you see the flop?

He has defined his hand as a strong one. If he is very tight I like the implied odds for this hand with position. What is ace's image?

What hands would you call/raise the limp-reraise with?
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Old 05-24-2005, 01:12 PM
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Default Re: do you see the flop?

what kind of flop would you be comfortable with? one with 2 queens?

I would rather call with suited connector than AQ here.
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Old 05-25-2005, 08:56 PM
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Default Re: do you see the flop?

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I would rather call with suited connector than AQ here.

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Ditto, which assumes that very occasionally you would in fact raise early with such a hand to vary your play. When you get limp/reraised like that just turn the AQs into AQo and the decision will be much easier to make, since you are not going to be able to raise a tight player off AA/KK with an obvious flush draw on the flop.
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Old 05-24-2005, 07:18 PM
creedofhubris creedofhubris is offline
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Default Re: do you see the flop?

I would call this limp-reraise with any pair (shooting for set).

With enough behind, I'll call a small reraise with any two. (Well, that's not true, I don't raise with any two, but I won't fold whatever I raised with to a small reraise.)
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Old 05-24-2005, 03:11 PM
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Default Re: do you see the flop?

If the Villain is uber-tight and conservative then you win money by not getting involved with him when he has the goods.

If the stacks were deeper, MAYBE I call, otherwise I'm mucking with a quickness.
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Old 05-24-2005, 03:27 PM
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Default Re: do you see the flop?

Dont get me wrong, I dont think this is an insta-call, but how do we plan to trap this tight-ass? Im not sure if two queens are good, but if one comes on the flop his bet should give us some information. Is there no way to out play him on the flop? What hands do you think we could break this player with? If you say pick a better spot, what would be a better spot agsinst this tight player?

Its an easy fold, but I dont like the raise if you arent willing to call a bit more than a min-reraise.
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