Guess I did scare them off...

[Baloosh]

Any other way to play this, really?

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (13 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP3 folds, SB folds.

Final Pot: 8 BB

Thanks in advance.

[aK13]

Hmm...I like it, although the raise on the flop is quite bold.

[Baloosh]

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Hmm...I like it, although the raise on the flop is quite bold.

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Sheeeeeit... just calling in that spot guarantees that the two behind me coldcall, and possibly raise their Kx trash. I was trying to get it headsup with the flop better, and was folding to a re-raise.

[aK13]

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Hmm...I like it, although the raise on the flop is quite bold.

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Sheeeeeit... just calling in that spot guarantees that the two behind me coldcall, and possibly raise their Kx trash. I was trying to get it headsup with the flop better, and was folding to a re-raise.

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Yeah, I would probably have folded that hand to the flop bet, considering there are 2 overs. Bad play?

[Baloosh]

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Hmm...I like it, although the raise on the flop is quite bold.

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Sheeeeeit... just calling in that spot guarantees that the two behind me coldcall, and possibly raise their Kx trash. I was trying to get it headsup with the flop better, and was folding to a re-raise.

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Yeah, I would probably have folded that hand to the flop bet, considering there are 2 overs. Bad play?

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You don't ever consider representing AKo in that scenario? I managed to scare off any Jx, and any Kx -- except for AK (obviously). My tens probably weren't the best hand after the flop (unless those coldcallers are complete Leroy Jenkins's) so I though the pot was just big enough to risk and extra SB if I had any chance at all.

[aK13]

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Hmm...I like it, although the raise on the flop is quite bold.

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Sheeeeeit... just calling in that spot guarantees that the two behind me coldcall, and possibly raise their Kx trash. I was trying to get it headsup with the flop better, and was folding to a re-raise.

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Yeah, I would probably have folded that hand to the flop bet, considering there are 2 overs. Bad play?

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You don't ever consider representing AKo in that scenario? I managed to scare off any Jx, and any Kx -- except for AK (obviously). My tens probably weren't the best hand after the flop (unless those coldcallers are complete Leroy Jenkins's) so I though the pot was just big enough to risk and extra SB if I had any chance at all.

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I consider it all the time. I just don't think my opponents notice very often, nor do they fold. At all. Especially at .5/1.

EDIT: nifty, 700th post, old hand =)

[thesharpie]

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Hmm...I like it, although the raise on the flop is quite bold.

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Sheeeeeit... just calling in that spot guarantees that the two behind me coldcall, and possibly raise their Kx trash. I was trying to get it headsup with the flop better, and was folding to a re-raise.

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This is pretty bad. If you do raise you should call a reraise as you're getting correct odds. The reason I say just call on the flop is because the odds are good enough, and they're even better once the pad is potted if he 3 bets. I would fold in a smaller pot but you have a couple of marginal backdoor draws and your set draw which makes peeling one ok.

[Baloosh]

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This is pretty bad. If you do raise you should call a reraise as you're getting correct odds. The reason I say just call on the flop is because the odds are good enough, and they're even better once the pad is potted if he 3 bets. I would fold in a smaller pot but you have a couple of marginal backdoor draws and your set draw which makes peeling one ok.

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Yeah, 18:1 against a re-raise (provided the other two fold) would end up being enough to peel one, wouldn't it? The flop raise also helped define the flop bettors hand -- looks like he might have been semi-bluffing with QJ?

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This is pretty bad. If you do raise you should call a reraise as you're getting correct odds. The reason I say just call on the flop is because the odds are good enough, and they're even better once the pad is potted if he 3 bets. I would fold in a smaller pot but you have a couple of marginal backdoor draws and your set draw which makes peeling one ok.

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Yeah, 18:1 against a re-raise (provided the other two fold) would end up being enough to peel one, wouldn't it? The flop raise also helped define the flop bettors hand -- looks like he might have been semi-bluffing with QJ?

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I just think SB is being redonkulous. Call 3 on the flop when he's going to be OOP the entire hand, then leads a nice high card flop.

[thesharpie]

You could just call the flop. If I knew it would turn out the way it did with a flop raise I'd do it, but it's not going to often. I just call the flop.

Sounds like you wanted to keep people in? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]