How did I play these Queens?

Booker · #1 05-18-2005, 06:04 PM

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, UTG+2 raises, MP1 calls, 3 folds, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+2 bets, MP1 folds, Hero raises, UTG+2 3-bets, Hero caps, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: (9.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets, UTG+2 calls.

River: (11.25 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets, UTG+2 calls.

Final Pot: 13.25 BB

snapfc01 · #2 05-18-2005, 06:07 PM

i check down on the river... other then that looks good

Demos · #3 05-18-2005, 06:08 PM

I don't really care for the flop cap.

davelin · #4 05-18-2005, 06:09 PM

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I don't really care for the flop cap.

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toss · #5 05-18-2005, 06:09 PM

Good PF.

Flop wou went overboard. Villain has raised PF which highly suggests he has Kings when he bets and 3-bets the flop. With no reads I'll raise this flop since the pot is getting big and call his 3-bet since we odds to draw to our 2 outs. Since we didn't improve on the turn I would fold.

chopchoi · #6 05-18-2005, 06:36 PM

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With no reads I'll raise this flop since the pot is getting big and call his 3-bet since we odds to draw to our 2 outs.

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There are 10.5 SB in the pot pf. after the bet, raise, 3 bet, there are 15.5 SB. The odds against hitting a set are 22:1. So, if you believe that you only have 2 outs, you would also have to believe that you can win another 6.5 SB from your opponent in order to have the implied odds to justify a call. I don't think you can count on that much action.

toss · #7 05-18-2005, 06:38 PM

Thats true. I guess it is a flop fold then.

Buckmulligan · #8 05-18-2005, 06:13 PM

I probably fold the flop to the 3 bet.

ClaytonN · #9 05-18-2005, 06:39 PM

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I probably fold the flop to the 3 bet.

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mmbt0ne · #10 05-18-2005, 08:00 PM

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I probably fold the flop to the 3 bet.

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Booooo. 17.5:1. 2 Qs, backdoor straight draw.

The only way a cap was good here is if you are determined to show down, know it will slow down villian, and check behind on the river, saving yourself 0.5SB when you're behind. I think that's still a crappy play though.

Given that villian raised preflop, called a 3-bet and then bet into you I don't think you're in great shape. If anything I think your best play might be to call and re-evaluate on the turn. The pot is big, and it's already HU.

EDIT: I miscounted the odds, but I'm leaving it up there. It's actually 16.5:1 which makes it a lot closer, and probably a fold. The rest of the post is fine.