2 KJs around the button

sfwusc · #1 05-17-2005, 10:27 PM

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
5 folds, MP3 raises, 3 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (4.33 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets, Hero raises, MP3 calls.

Turn: (4.16 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP3 raises, Hero calls.

River: (8.16 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.16 BB

Hand 2

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Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
6 folds, CO raises, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, CO caps, Hero calls.

Flop: (9.33 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO bets, Hero raises, CO 3-bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.66 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO bets, Hero calls.

River: (9.66 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11.66 BB

brettbrettr · #2 05-18-2005, 12:20 AM

Read on MP3 in hand 1? I think I like the way you played it, and since I'd like to show it down I think this is a check-call river. I'm not entirely sure though.

Hand 2 seems tough. I'm not sure I raise the flop. Maybe a call down from there. Seeing an ace or queen would suck, but CO's cap means something.

Lurker4 · #3 05-18-2005, 02:59 AM

hand 1: flop c/r is ok, my default is to check/call flop but that might be too weak to do that all of the time. If Villain is moderately aggressive I might 3-bet PF.

hand 2: I play it the same. I'd probably bet if checked to on turn/river.

mtdoak · #4 05-18-2005, 03:11 AM

Hand #1 is fine.

Hand #2 muck preflop. I like KJs too, but why are you calling with an easily dominated hand.

Lurker4 · #5 05-18-2005, 03:14 AM

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Hand #1 is fine.

Hand #2 muck preflop. I like KJs too, but why are you calling with an easily dominated hand.

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Without a read of Villian being passive PF or not much of a stealer, this PF 3-bet is automatic for me. Maybe its because I play an equal amount of full and 6-max, but I think 3-betting here is standard. Villain is raising from CO and has a pretty wide range of hands, some of which Hero's KJs is dominating.

mtdoak · #6 05-18-2005, 03:29 AM

If your up against a LAG, then i agree with you. But, IMHO, your at best a coinflip around 50% of the time, dominating 25%, and being dominated 25% of the time. Give me 66-99 or AQ or better, then you should be isolating. IMHO, you should wait until you have a larger edge and push it then. Yes, you could be way ahead of him, but remember, hands like KJ, AT make expensive 2nd best hands.

toss · #7 05-18-2005, 03:36 AM

What range of hands do you think CO will open with? I think its a lot larger than you think.

toss · #8 05-18-2005, 03:17 AM

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Hand #2 muck preflop.

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CO opened meaning his range of hands is really wide. This is an easy 3-bet IMO. I would probably call down since he capped.

Pat Southern · #9 05-18-2005, 03:26 AM

Hand 1: Why don't you bet/fold the river?

toss · #10 05-18-2005, 03:31 AM

Bet/fold the river in hand one is defintely an option, but were HU the whoe hand and the chance that MP3 will bluff-raise the river may be too high to use that line. Instead we can check/call and snap off a bluff.