30/60 Turn decision

[steveyz]

raiser hasn't gotten out of line.

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Party Poker 30/60 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (11 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP2 folds, CO calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero ???

[bicyclekick]

Bet, if he raises, I'm seeing the river and folding unimproved.

[La Brujita]

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Bet, if he raises, I'm seeing the river and folding unimproved.

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Wow, this is a fold I can't make. Does the chance he has AA or AK not make this worth a calldown on the river?

It means nothing but I had aa yesterday and AK went four bets on the flop in a multiway pot and I just called it down.

I will be the first to admit I am new to 30-60 online.

[pfkaok]

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Wow, this is a fold I can't make.

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Yeah, me neither... will he really never raise AK or AA if you bet into him on turn?

If you were villian you wouldn't raise either of those on the turn?

[Schneids]

BK is on crack I'd never fold the river unimproved barring extreme extreme turn and river action.

[1800GAMBLER]

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BK is on crack I'd never fold the river unimproved barring extreme extreme turn and river action.

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Agreed. Esp. Given that PRF has the whole field behind him making him more likely to raise AA AK on the turn.

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FU I've been playing Party 30/60 and seeing all kinds of sh!t even from "solid" players.

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I just wanted to 2nd this. The greatest change in my 15/30 game to 30/60 game is making gaybets since all of these 'solid' players love there 3 bet/cap free card plays and adore free showdown plays.

[bicyclekick]

Seriously, people are not as retarded as you think they are. The hell he's raising the f'ing turn with freaking AA or AK. They're better hand readers than that. Cmon now. He said villian hasn't gotten out of line. The hell you're good.

[Schneids]

OMG like hell AK or AA doesn't raise that turn often in Party, even by decent players. Why can't he raise the turn and check the river if he doesn't improve? Lots of good players do that. Yes I know the pot is multiway. I'm sure many players are thinking "I gotta charge JT and QT and KT and other assorted [censored], I gotta raise."

Please. Two pair ============== showdown for 1 bet in party.

P.S. You never specified what you'd do if you get raised by UTG and he checks river and someone else bets.

[bicyclekick]

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OMG like hell AK or AA doesn't raise that turn often in Party, even by decent players. Why can't he raise the turn and check the river if he doesn't improve? Lots of good players do that. Yes I know the pot is multiway. I'm sure many players are thinking "I gotta charge JT and QT and KT and other assorted [censored], I gotta raise."

Please. Two pair ============== showdown for 1 bet in party.

P.S. You never specified what you'd do if you get raised by UTG and he checks river and someone else bets.

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This isn't party 10/20 6max. While the 30 players can be donks, there is a lot less of a chance and he said he hadn't seen anything out of line.

The "it's party" excuse is lame and over used.

[La Brujita]

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The hell you're good.

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Are you saying I suck? I kind of agree.