On a near 100BB downswing... (Please don't flame too much!)

dawade · #1 05-11-2005, 05:00 PM

Signed up for Party about two weeks ago. Acidentally deposited $50 (instead of $500) so my bonus was only $15, even after I deposited $450 more. Anywho, I got up to like 580/90ish and since then I've just plummeted. Seems like I never catch any cards, and when I do I'm either outdrawn or busted by rags. I'm making correct plays (at least I think I am - at this point I'm not about my game at all).

Every day starts out the same. I play good solid poker, but still lose about 5 BB then I win a decent size pot to break about even then lose some more, usually finishing 100+ hands down 5+ BB. I know this is .5/1 but this is extremely embarresing and utterly frustrating.

Any words of advice?

Hojglad · #2 05-11-2005, 05:03 PM

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Even the best poker player in the world can have a downswing at 0.5/1.00. Just keep playing solid poker and the results will come. Post hands, reply to hands to receive input on how you played/would play them. If your downswing ends up lasting longer than a few weeks, you should probably re-examine your postflop play (the most likely cause of you losing money).

One thing I found during downswings is that I end up paying raises off too much. I can't remember the last time I got checkraised on the river and won without the (near) nuts. Stop paying off river and turn checkraises made by solid players. Every time you pay off one of these, it's 1 BB. Do this 5 times in 100 hands, and your winrate for those 100 hands just decreased by 5.

Sasnak · #3 05-11-2005, 06:22 PM

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I know this is .5/1 but this is extremely embarresing and utterly frustrating.

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One thing I found during downswings is that I end up paying raises off too much. I can't remember the last time I got checkraised on the river and won without the (near) nuts. Stop paying off river and turn checkraises made by solid players. Every time you pay off one of these, it's 1 BB. Do this 5 times in 100 hands, and your winrate for those 100 hands just decreased by 5.

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Which is what I tell myself when I get CR'd and call with my 2 pair to the runner runner flush. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Excellent advice btw...

irishpint · #4 05-11-2005, 07:03 PM

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I know this is .5/1 but this is extremely embarresing and utterly frustrating.

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One thing I found during downswings is that I end up paying raises off too much. I can't remember the last time I got checkraised on the river and won without the (near) nuts. Stop paying off river and turn checkraises made by solid players. Every time you pay off one of these, it's 1 BB. Do this 5 times in 100 hands, and your winrate for those 100 hands just decreased by 5.

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Which is what I tell myself when I get CR'd and call with my 2 pair to the runner runner flush. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Excellent advice btw...

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so that's 5BB. Now the next one you call with your two pair to his bluff and you win 15BB, now you're up 13BB for 501 hands.

Hojglad · #5 05-11-2005, 08:25 PM

Ya don't fold for one more with a made hand like two pair in a 15BB pot.

dvashun · #6 05-11-2005, 05:06 PM

Before you get flamed for whining, just wanted to say hang in there. Read or re-read SSH and just stay patient. Look for any leaks that may be causing the slide to be bigger than it should be. Take care and try not to let the beats be too bad.

jrz1972 · #7 05-11-2005, 05:07 PM

Everybody in this forum has probably experienced at least one ~100 BB downswing, even at .5/1. I've had three (still clawing my way back from the third). Don't sweat it.

I find that hanging out in the forum and responding to threads helps keep my game on keel.

deception5 · #8 05-11-2005, 05:40 PM

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Everybody in this forum has probably experienced at least one ~100 BB downswing, even at .5/1. I've had three (still clawing my way back from the third). Don't sweat it.

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Agree 100%. Just review, make sure you're playing good poker and move on.

bozlax · #9 05-11-2005, 09:14 PM

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Everybody in this forum has probably experienced at least one ~100 BB downswing, even at .5/1. I've had three (still clawing my way back from the third). Don't sweat it.

I find that hanging out in the forum and responding to threads helps keep my game on keel.

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Wow. How I long for the days when I'd be down 100BB over several days. I went down 60BB just yesterday morning, working on clearing the Empire bonus (and, no, they didn't impound my account).

Of course, yesterday afternoon and today I bounced back and now sit 30BB up.

OP, you've been here for a month and a half, and your subject line clearly demonstrates that you know what you're going to get with a post like this, so...NUT UP, STOP WHINING, AND KEEP PLAYING. It'll either come back or you're a terrible poker player and nobody loves you; either way, having people pat you on the head and tell you it's going to be ok isn't going to change the situation at all.

Firefly · #10 05-11-2005, 05:08 PM

Downswings happen. Variance sucks.
Ideally you may want to take a break. Just 2-3 days and come back with a new focus and vigor.
100BB isn't really a big deal variance wise (it feels like it, I know, been there) so maybe post some hands see if your way out of line or what have you.
Just my random thoughts, goodluck and may the fish be with you.