1000 tournies, question about moving on up

[Maulik]

I'm Going to Europe: need your help

Like I said in that thread, I'll be playing lots of SNGs split between the $20s day & $30s night. After playing nearly 1000 (that's the goal raptor is making me shoot for) is that likely to be enough to get me to play the $50s afterward?

For those who want to join the challenge I'll start that tonight and perhaps a thread too =]

brilliant responses only please, lol.

[jcm4ccc]

Screw the 30s. Play the 20s during the day and 50s during the night (if your bankroll is $2000 or more). My ROI in the 20s is about 0.20 during the day. My ROI in the 50s is about 0.17 during the night. The 50s is a small sample size (about 115), but I can tell you that I feel very comfortable playing the 50s at night. The extra chips are nice, and there always seems to be 2 or 3 fish swimming in any one tournament. I hate playing them during the day (some of the $215 players seem to slum in the $50s during the day).

I just find the $30s very tough--good players, fewer chips. Very small sample size, since I got out of there pretty fast.

I'm not saying that the 50s are easier than the 30s. I'm saying that the 50s at night are easier than the 30s during the day.

[Maulik]

Hmm, that's an interesting consideration and I had not really considered it. Part of playing 1k sngs was to plug all those leaks that I had and be ready for the next step the 50s. But I'll consider that if others think this is a good idea.

[Phil Van Sexton]

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Screw the 30s. Play the 20s during the day and 50s during the night (if your bankroll is $2000 or more). My ROI in the 20s is about 0.20 during the day. My ROI in the 50s is about 0.17 during the night. The 50s is a small sample size (about 115), but I can tell you that I feel very comfortable playing the 50s at night. The extra chips are nice, and there always seems to be 2 or 3 fish swimming in any one tournament. I hate playing them during the day (some of the $215 players seem to slum in the $50s during the day).

I just find the $30s very tough--good players, fewer chips. Very small sample size, since I got out of there pretty fast.

I'm not saying that the 50s are easier than the 30s. I'm saying that the 50s at night are easier than the 30s during the day.

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In my experience, the biggest difference from 20s-30s-50s is the 800 vs 1000 starting chips. I don't like to mix and match 800 and 1000 chip games.

Of course, I do it anyway because I have no discipline, but I definately do better when I stick to 1 type of game.

Maybe other people don't feel 800 vs 1000 make much difference, but that's my 2 cents.

[Maulik]

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Screw the 30s. Play the 20s during the day and 50s during the night (if your bankroll is $2000 or more). My ROI in the 20s is about 0.20 during the day. My ROI in the 50s is about 0.17 during the night. The 50s is a small sample size (about 115), but I can tell you that I feel very comfortable playing the 50s at night. The extra chips are nice, and there always seems to be 2 or 3 fish swimming in any one tournament. I hate playing them during the day (some of the $215 players seem to slum in the $50s during the day).

I just find the $30s very tough--good players, fewer chips. Very small sample size, since I got out of there pretty fast.

I'm not saying that the 50s are easier than the 30s. I'm saying that the 50s at night are easier than the 30s during the day.

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In my experience, the biggest difference from 20s-30s-50s is the 800 vs 1000 starting chips. I don't like to mix and match 800 and 1000 chip games.

Of course, I do it anyway because I have no discipline, but I definately do better when I stick to 1 type of game.

Maybe other people don't feel 800 vs 1000 make much difference, but that's my 2 cents.

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I had no intention of mixing and matching stack sizes, I think its terrible idea too. Based on the post in regard to playing around the good players on the $30s I am not sure if that holds enough merit to just play between the $20s and $50s.

[kevstreet]

What's your PP screen name? I'll give you a "holla" on the $20s and $30s.

[jcm4ccc]

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I had no intention of mixing and matching stack sizes, I think its terrible idea too. Based on the post in regard to playing around the good players on the $30s I am not sure if that holds enough merit to just play between the $20s and $50s.

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It doesn't seem that big a deal to me. The extra 200 chips buy you a a little bit more time to catch a good hand or push in a more opportune spot.

So when you 4-table, sometimes you are short-stacked and sometimes you have the big-stack. Sometimes the big stack is bullying you, and sometimes the big stack is passive. Are you saying that it's difficult to adjust to different tables and different strategies? These issues seems much more critical than the fact that you have 800 chips or 1000 chips on Level 1.

[Phil Van Sexton]

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I had no intention of mixing and matching stack sizes, I think its terrible idea too. Based on the post in regard to playing around the good players on the $30s I am not sure if that holds enough merit to just play between the $20s and $50s.

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It doesn't seem that big a deal to me. The extra 200 chips buy you a a little bit more time to catch a good hand or push in a more opportune spot.

So when you 4-table, sometimes you are short-stacked and sometimes you have the big-stack. Sometimes the big stack is bullying you, and sometimes the big stack is passive. Are you saying that it's difficult to adjust to different tables and different strategies? These issues seems much more critical than the fact that you have 800 chips or 1000 chips on Level 1.

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It more of an issue later. When there are 4 players left, the average stack will have 500 more chips.

In a 800 chip game, if you get 2500 chips, you can often start thinking about vegas and the fxxking mirage. In a 1000 chip game, you have more work left.

It's just an adjustment of your internal clock. Again, I'm sure many people don't care.

[Degen]

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Screw the 30s. Play the 20s during the day and 50s during the night (if your bankroll is $2000 or more). My ROI in the 20s is about 0.20 during the day. My ROI in the 50s is about 0.17 during the night. The 50s is a small sample size (about 115), but I can tell you that I feel very comfortable playing the 50s at night. The extra chips are nice, and there always seems to be 2 or 3 fish swimming in any one tournament. I hate playing them during the day (some of the $215 players seem to slum in the $50s during the day).

I just find the $30s very tough--good players, fewer chips. Very small sample size, since I got out of there pretty fast.

I'm not saying that the 50s are easier than the 30s. I'm saying that the 50s at night are easier than the 30s during the day.


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Please take it from someone with far more tourneys logged at the 55's and 33's than you JM...you are way off on both accounts.

The 33's are where the fishies swim and the 55's are much tougher to beat. You can find a good table/good run at the 55's and a bad table/bad run at the 33's but i definately wouldn't say the 55's are better than the 33's.

Its a much different game Maulik, you have to make a lot of adjustments, it took me about 100 tourneys to stop playing them wrong-more chips changes things.




Andre

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