Going against the numbers of eastbay's calc

[J-Lo]

$30+3 200-400 blinds

UTG 1800
Button 3000
me 600
BB 600

so button raises, i have AQ, do i call or fold? He's been doing this for a while. Eastbay's calc says call.... i folded.

blinds 150/300
UTG 3000
button/me 2800
SB 500
BB 1500

UTG min raises, been doing it the entire time, i push w/ AQ, he calls w/ K7, do i want him calling?


blinds 200-400 $50+5
UTG 2500
button 450
me 1000
BB 6000

I pikc up TT and push, he calls w/ Q7o.

Are any of these plays wrong?

edit: all stack sized are before posting

[BDarch]

I like the second and the third example but in the first I would definately call. You said he had been raising a lot so you are probably ahead of him and the BB could outfold you into the money if he wanted to, unless those stack sizes are before posting. If those are before posting then I may consider folding.

[FatalError]

1. Folding and playing for 2nd here is alright if you both have exactly 600 left after paying your blinds, the chance he'll call if you fold is worth it, plus you'll hit your blinds next both all in and can take your "coin flip" there

2. Good play, he makes a bad call and you did'nt want this call, you want free money with no showdown whenever you're less than a 65% favorite imho

3. I do this too

[microbet]

i'm playing so i can't really think about it now, but

eastbay's program doesn't handle 3 ways, so you account for when BB calls in the first case

in eastbay's program you have to select the ranges of hands then it gives $EV, you can't really say it gives any particular recommendation without stating the hand ranges.


edit: no 3 ways yet - it is a feature that is expected to come

[eastbay]

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$30+3 200-400 blinds

UTG 1800
Button 3000
me 600
BB 600

so button raises, i have AQ, do i call or fold? He's been doing this for a while. Eastbay's calc says call.... i folded.


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My calculator says nothing about this scenario. You haven't given enough information.

eastbay

[J-Lo]

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$30+3 200-400 blinds

UTG 1800
Button 3000
me 600
BB 600

so button raises, i have AQ, do i call or fold? He's been doing this for a while. Eastbay's calc says call.... i folded.


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My calculator says nothing about this scenario. You haven't given enough information.

eastbay

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i put in the stacks, i give the range of hands of BB the loosest, i give myself AQ, and use the call option. you calculator gives it a call w/ +$EV of 1.4%

Am i using this wrong?


edit: argh!! can't get a place to host this picture.

http://photos.yahoo.com/junaid0

not much better, but if u save it to your HDD, then open it, u can see what i did--- i think.

[david050173]

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$30+3 200-400 blinds

UTG 1800
Button 3000
me 600
BB 600

so button raises, i have AQ, do i call or fold? He's been doing this for a while. Eastbay's calc says call.... i folded.


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My calculator says nothing about this scenario. You haven't given enough information.

eastbay

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i put in the stacks, i give the range of hands of BB the loosest, i give myself AQ, and use the call option. you calculator gives it a call w/ +$EV of 1.4%

Am i using this wrong?


edit: argh!! can't get a place to host this picture.

http://photos.yahoo.com/junaid0

not much better, but if u save it to your HDD, then open it, u can see what i did--- i think.

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The part that eastbays program can't handle is what is the chances that the BB calls making it a 3 way.


The logic behind folding is that the BB will have to survive at least one all in and maybe you can squeak into the money.

I think calling is the right play. The odds are the button doesn't have AA, KK,QQ, or AK. He would be pushing with a lot of hands that you dominate. If you win, you will have a stack where you have a chance to play for 1st. If you fold, you are not assured of 3rd. If the BB wins one his hands, you will have to survive an all in.

[eastbay]

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$30+3 200-400 blinds

UTG 1800
Button 3000
me 600
BB 600

so button raises, i have AQ, do i call or fold? He's been doing this for a while. Eastbay's calc says call.... i folded.


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My calculator says nothing about this scenario. You haven't given enough information.

eastbay

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i put in the stacks, i give the range of hands of BB the loosest, i give myself AQ, and use the call option. you calculator gives it a call w/ +$EV of 1.4%

Am i using this wrong?


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Sounds like it, yes. You need to specify what the raiser is raising with. This is the key to the decision.

eastbay

[Scuba Chuck]

Hand 1: I like the fold. Poker, a thinking mans' game. Then you'll be pissed when he doubles up with his 27o, and you coulda played this hand. At least, that's how I feel when this happens. I still like the fold. Very smart to consider stacksizes/blinds...

[microbet]

There aren't nearly enough chips posted in the first hand. Or is it a 6 seater or something?