How Bad Is This Fold??

Dopey · #1 05-02-2005, 11:06 PM

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets, Hero raises, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (7 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, BB calls, Hero calls.

River: (10 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, BB calls, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 12 BB

Surfbullet · #2 05-02-2005, 11:12 PM

Mega super-duper ultra bad.

SB donkbets the turn. So what? He picked up a draw maybe.. or has TT and waited 'till the turn to bet, or who knows what.

There's a section in SSH where Ed Miller mentions that when a player donkbets ( i believe he calls it sudden bet or something) a card like the board pairing he almost never has it, because the natural instinct is to c/r b/c the hand is so strong. Both you and BB put in bets/raises on the flop...SB would c/r his 8 here nearly always.

I think the question here should be whether to raise the turn... BB calling along doesn't have an 8 because he'd raise the turn, and i'm not inclined to believe SB until he shows me he means business.

given your line, call the river!!!

Surf

imported_CaseClosed326 · #3 05-02-2005, 11:16 PM

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I think it is far worse than this. Nine times out of ten the donk bet means less than nothing. A raise would stop him from bluffing so I would just call down.

ZBTHorton · #4 05-02-2005, 11:17 PM

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I think it is far worse than this. Nine times out of ten the donk bet means less than nothing. A raise would stop him from bluffing so I would just call down.

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Do you mean call the turn raise the river? Call-Down infers calling on the river as well. Once you call the river, he can't bluff anymore.

imported_CaseClosed326 · #5 05-02-2005, 11:26 PM

Looking over the hand a little more I know that folding is very bad. Turn raise might be a good idea but I am not sure. I won't give credit to SB for trips so I am not sure what the best line would be.

Grisgra · #6 05-02-2005, 11:28 PM

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ZBTHorton · #7 05-02-2005, 11:14 PM

The turn call is horrible.
The river fold is horrendous.

imported_CaseClosed326 · #8 05-02-2005, 11:18 PM

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The river flop is horrendous.

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Is this code?

ZBTHorton · #9 05-02-2005, 11:19 PM

Changed..and you knew what I meant.

Surfbullet · #10 05-02-2005, 11:24 PM

Dude I hate river flops...unless I river flop a boat, that's the best!

Surf