Just checking, but I'm a moron, right?

jeffraider · #1 04-26-2005, 09:53 PM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t300 (4 handed) converter

Hero (t2116)
UTG (t1840)
Button (t1790)
SB (t2254)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">UTG bets 1840 (All-In)2 folds</font>, Hero calls t1540

jeffraider · #2 04-26-2005, 09:54 PM

Oh and UTG had not got out of line or anything, and had pushed either once or twice previous to this hand.

Bigwig · #3 04-26-2005, 09:56 PM

Yeah, don't do that. His stack needs to be about 800 less to make this call on the bubble. Or maybe even 1000 less, depending on who you ask.

flo · #4 04-27-2005, 10:14 AM

Can you elaborate? Im not sure i fully understand the mechanics behind that. According to what calculation do i get my hand range here? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Thanks in advance!

citanul · #5 04-27-2005, 10:29 AM

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Can you elaborate? Im not sure i fully understand the mechanics behind that. According to what calculation do i get my hand range here? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Thanks in advance!

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fold, don't call, push.

the above 4 words tell you how to play the bubble. having provided more insight than the bible, i now depart.

citanul

Voltron87 · #6 04-27-2005, 10:31 AM

hey you just said my post in 1/4 as many words.

citanul · #7 04-27-2005, 10:34 AM

heh, i was about to go back and add a line that said:

now that you know how to pwn the bubble, go make some money.

or something like that.

sorry i stole your thunder, but you did more explicating, which is good.

citanul

ilya · #8 04-26-2005, 10:09 PM

Yeah, I think that's a crappy call.

ilya · #9 04-27-2005, 10:05 AM

I think the calling range here is 99+, AK, AQs, and perhaps AQo and AJs.

vinyard · #10 04-27-2005, 10:21 AM

So, bubble play completely alludes me. I'll fess up (and happily take specific post recommendations via PM) to that and say that I don't understand having AJ and AQ in the range. Is it a pot odds issue am missing?

By my calcs the pot is at 2290, he's calling 1540 so I guess he's getting 60/40 from the pot. Just looking at the situation, I can see the pusher on A8+, 77+ and KQ? Is that an arbitrarily narrow range for his push?

I am really not trying to be a pain in the ass, just trying to understand better.