Common mid-low pair situation: Ragged flop

Aaron W. · #1 04-23-2005, 02:32 AM

PFR is relatively new to the table. I think this was the first raise I saw from him. He seemed relatively tight preflop and hasn't done anything to get my attention.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, 3 folds, CO raises, 2 folds, BB calls, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, CO bets, BB folds, Hero...

ArturiusX · #2 04-23-2005, 02:35 AM

Fold without looking twice.

Entity · #3 04-23-2005, 02:39 AM

I think checkraising is ok sometimes. I also think folding is ok sometimes.

This time, I think I'd checkraise.

Rob

Aaron W. · #4 04-23-2005, 03:37 AM

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I think checkraising is ok sometimes. I also think folding is ok sometimes.

This time, I think I'd checkraise.

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Why checkraise this time?

Entity · #5 04-23-2005, 03:40 AM

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I think checkraising is ok sometimes. I also think folding is ok sometimes.

This time, I think I'd checkraise.

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Why checkraise this time?

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The pot is large, you only have one other PF caller to "make it" through, it's a good flop for 66, and you have some backdoor draws which help cushion the blow if you do get 3-bet.

Rob

milesdyson · #6 04-23-2005, 02:46 AM

I would check raise this against myself. It all depends on how tight/passive CO is, but I would raise here more often than fold.

jaxUp · #7 04-23-2005, 03:47 AM

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I would check raise this against myself.

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Send me a PM when this matchup happens. I'm curious to see the outcome.

Also, for some content:
All things considered, I like a c/r here. But I'm not sure if I would have made that decision at the table.

ArturiusX · #8 04-23-2005, 02:48 AM

On a second look, a check-raise might be good with a good read. I have no problems mucking this though.

Kumubou · #9 04-23-2005, 02:54 AM

I'm curious as to why a check-raise may be proper. Is this read-dependent, trying to spook the PFR off his overcards?

I'm guessing you can safely fold to a 3-bet (or call and fold the turn UI).

-K

milesdyson · #10 04-23-2005, 02:57 AM

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I'm curious as to why a check-raise may be proper. Is this read-dependent, trying to spook the PFR off his overcards?

I'm guessing you can safely fold to a 3-bet (or call and fold the turn UI).

-K

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Yeah, he will incorrectly fold many overcard hands to a single bet on the turn.