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Old 04-18-2005, 07:04 PM
imported_etojim imported_etojim is offline
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Default won WSOP seat on party....need advice

I am relative novice ,but was lucky enough to win seat at WSOP on Party and would like advice on what books are best on NL tourmanent play. Also how important to play online vs live tournaments to prepare....thanks
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Old 04-18-2005, 07:07 PM
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Default Re: won WSOP seat on party....need advice

. . . . . . Read Harrington on Hold'em & Tournament Poker for Advanced Players by David Sklansky.
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Old 04-18-2005, 07:47 PM
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Default Re: won WSOP seat on party....need advice

Yes....those are the books to read.


Congrats btw.


I think you can benefit from both online and live play to prepare for the big event (although I've never played it).


When I won my seat on the PPM IV cruise I played a ton of online-tournaments for about a month to prepare and found it to be a great help.

I played anything from 20 player to 400 player tourneys (or bigger) ranging from $10 to $100 buy-in's pretty much.
I wasn't picky...I just wanted to get more and more comfortable working my way around in tournaments.


If you don't have much live experience you would be wise to get some before you go.
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Old 04-18-2005, 08:11 PM
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Default Re: won WSOP seat on party....need advice

congrats!

I'd offer you some books to study, but since you're a novice, I have a better piece of advice for you:

you aren't going to learn how to play great NL hold'em in a month and a half, no matter how much you play and study.

You might get pretty good, but you'll still be a huge underdog against almost any other player there.

So...I think you should play David Sklansky's system. I know it's in one of his books, and I'm sure you can find it by doing a search on here.

Basically, it tells you to fold everything but AA,KK,QQand AK - and push with those. But there's more to it. He advocates it as a great way to short circuit "expert play" against you.

I'm sure someone else on here can point you to the appropriate link.

good luck!
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Old 04-18-2005, 08:29 PM
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Default Re: won WSOP seat on party....need advice

it's in tournament poker for advanced players.

but...i think even as a novice i'd not use it.

no fun.
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Old 04-18-2005, 08:39 PM
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Default Re: won WSOP seat on party....need advice

Dude, this guy may be a beginner, but he won a freakin satellite to get into the WSOP, so he must be at least okay. Sure, most of the players in the main event are pros and much better and/or more experienced, but still...

I think recommending that strategy to him is an insult.
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Old 04-18-2005, 11:31 PM
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Dude, this guy may be a beginner, but he won a freakin satellite to get into the WSOP, so he must be at least okay. Sure, most of the players in the main event are pros and much better and/or more experienced, but still...

I think recommending that strategy to him is an insult.

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Quote:
I am relative novice



This is why I suggested he play the System. I didn't call him a novice, he called himself one. Dude.
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Old 04-19-2005, 02:13 AM
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Default Re: won WSOP seat on party....need advice

I think this fellow has plenty of time to read and digest both Harrington on Hold'em as well as the Sklansky Tournament book.

Those two guides should give him a nice place to start, along with perhaps playing three MTTs a week along with normal play, he could do quite well for himself depending upon his relative expectations.

Seriously, if he reads those two books, and goes into the event with a positive attitude, and a willingness to have fun, it could be a very pleasurable experience if nothing else.
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Old 04-19-2005, 03:52 AM
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Default Re: won WSOP seat on party....need advice

Agreed.

Plenty of time to play a bunch of low buy-in MTT's and SNG's of the NL variety to get more comfortable...as well as read up HOH and TPFAP and the MTT and SNG forums.

There's plenty out there to be digested so maybe just HOH and the MTT forums. 1 or 2 months of that should give one a decent NL tourney game I would have to think.


Basically...even with just a limit mentality it shouldn't be too much of a stretch to gain some experience and knowledge and have a reasonably tightish and playable NL tourney game.


He's not going to out-fox any Chris Fergusons while he's there...but he might be able to survive the first day and after that who knows if he can make the money.
It's possible.



I'm hardly god's gift of tourney poker...and I made the money in my first and only live tourney by finishing 177th out of 740 on the cruise.
Just takes a lucky break or three in there...that's all.



Out of 6000 or so players at the WSOP ME I suspect that 600th place will pay $10k or so. Just a guess...but I thought it was typical to pay the top 10% places.


A lot of players will be employing weak-tight strategies in efforts to outlast the hyper-aggressive all-in maniacs.
Neither strategy is that outstanding. But the weak-tight's still have a chance of making it to the money....and the maniacs still have a chance of building a really nice stack.



There WILL be some really mediocre players making it to the money.
There WILL be several players with about as much live tourney experience as he has.

No reason why he should feel he can't take home more than just his WSOP memories.
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Old 04-18-2005, 08:36 PM
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Default Re: won WSOP seat on party....need advice

If you don't have live experience it will be a huge benefit leading up to the event. Just in terms of sitting in the chair, following the action, handling chips, keeping pace with the game.

Best of luck,
Have a blast!
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