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Old 04-18-2005, 06:44 PM
SpearsBritney SpearsBritney is offline
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Is it possible that what we consider to be the "universe" is just an inverted black hole, and that each black hole within our "universe" leads to other "universes". This would help explain the Big Bang Theory, and where all the matter disappears to in a black hole.

I don't really follow this kind of stuff, so I'm sure it has already been thought of and discussed many times.

Sorry for this geek post, but does anyone have any knowledge of this stuff?
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Old 04-18-2005, 06:55 PM
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yeah i've heard of this before a few years ago

not sure if scientists nowadays still think it is possible

but allthough it would help explain the big bang theory, it would create a whole lot more questions (where did the first 'universe' come from?)
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Old 04-18-2005, 07:09 PM
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yeah i've heard of this before a few years ago

not sure if scientists nowadays still think it is possible

but allthough it would help explain the big bang theory, it would create a whole lot more questions (where did the first 'universe' come from?)

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This is exactly my point. I've never believed that matter could just appear out of nowhere. And it has to go somewhere. If the universe is indeed infinate, then this could be the only logical explaination IMO.

Why did the universe have to "come" from somewhere initially anyway. It couldn't have possibly "come" from anything if you think about it. It has to be infinate by defination. We just have a hard time getting our tiny little human brains around something that is without beginning or end.
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Old 04-18-2005, 07:12 PM
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You just ruined a potentially good gimmick account by breaking character. Switch back to your other name!
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Old 04-18-2005, 07:18 PM
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Old 04-18-2005, 08:16 PM
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This is exactly my point. I've never believed that matter could just appear out of nowhere. And it has to go somewhere. If the universe is indeed infinate, then this could be the only logical explaination IMO.

Why did the universe have to "come" from somewhere initially anyway. It couldn't have possibly "come" from anything if you think about it. It has to be infinate by defination. We just have a hard time getting our tiny little human brains around something that is without beginning or end.

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maybe you just can't wrap your little human brain around the fact that matter just came from nowhere [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 04-18-2005, 08:31 PM
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This is exactly my point. I've never believed that matter could just appear out of nowhere. And it has to go somewhere. If the universe is indeed infinate, then this could be the only logical explaination IMO.

Why did the universe have to "come" from somewhere initially anyway. It couldn't have possibly "come" from anything if you think about it. It has to be infinate by defination. We just have a hard time getting our tiny little human brains around something that is without beginning or end.

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maybe you just can't wrap your little human brain around the fact that matter just came from nowhere [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Quite possible I suppose, but after thinking about both scenerios, I think the the argument for an infinate universe is alot more plausable than something from nothing.

My head hurts. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 04-18-2005, 09:35 PM
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I think the the argument for an infinate universe is alot more plausable than something from nothing.


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modern physics can explain something-from-nothing just fine, TYVM.

the 'black holes are gateways to another universe' idea is silly speculation, IMO. Black Holes are matter without volume, infinite density, information destroying machines, etc.


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It couldn't have possibly "come" from anything if you think about it. It has to be infinate by defination.

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you're going to have to make a big conceptual leap to get the points that are confusing you, it's almost a zen thing; the 'nothing' you refer to isn't really 'nothing' in the sense that you use the word, it is 'non-thing'- not an absense of things such as empty space and infinite time, but an absense of existance, time, space etc; not empty space, but not-space; not infinite time, but eternity(the non-existance of time).


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I've never believed that matter could just appear out of nowhere. And it has to go somewhere.

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matter appears out of the 'non-place' all the time and disappears back into the 'non-place' just as often- not existing or not not-existing, but some(non)thing else. in fact, matter, as the layman thinks of it, doesn't really exist at all.

well, i'm trippin out here. gonna go have a beer.
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Old 04-18-2005, 07:17 PM
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I find it interesting that you ask a somewhat interesting science question yet, somehow, you are foolish (or rude) enough to constantly give Mat Sklansky problems with your avatars.
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Old 04-18-2005, 07:29 PM
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I find it interesting that you ask a somewhat interesting science question yet, somehow, you are foolish (or rude) enough to constantly give Mat Sklansky problems with your avatars.

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I think this one's O.K.(no nipple). I also thought the first one would be acceptable, but I guess it had a little too much nipple. It was not my intention to give M.Sklansky problems, so I guess foolish is the correct answer.
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