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Old 04-17-2005, 12:01 PM
MikeR MikeR is offline
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Default Specialize in one game or learn all?

If you decide to invest x amount of hours each day playing poker and trying to profit would it be best to stick to one game or learn several games in case you find a softer table that's not hold em?
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Old 04-17-2005, 01:39 PM
william deangelis william deangelis is offline
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Default Re: Specialize in one game or learn all?

You should be able to find a soft holdem tables without really looking. However, Omaha players say that the tables are extremely soft. The average fish probably knows even less about Omaha than Holdem. I think as you progress knowing all games helps to be able to pick the most EV+ tournie/cash game.
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Old 04-17-2005, 08:36 PM
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Default Re: Specialize in one game or learn all?

I'd specialize in HE then branch out.

From what I've heard, Omaha money dries up towards mid-limit.
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Old 04-21-2005, 08:47 PM
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Default Re: Specialize in one game or learn all?

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I'd specialize in HE then branch out.

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If making money is the goal I concur. For me NLHE is by FAR the most profitable game.

But, it also bores me to tears.

As far as Omaha goes: limit O8 games tend to turn into rock gardens around mid-limits but this is not always true (the $75/$150 at Poker Stars for examples seems to be quite loose). POT-LIMIT omaha, otoh, I personally believe is one of the most profitable games for mid-limit online big bet poker. But you have to have a large bankroll and a very high tolerance for variance (i.e. qualities that most new players just simply do not have).

Stud is the best game for learning poker theory. JMO.

Just remember, this forum is geared towards people who are trying to make the most amount of money possible so there is going to be a clear bias towards hold em. If you are more interested in becoming a poker expert and can tolerate slow bankroll growth and a lot of bumps in the road, you should learn them all.

I've gone the multi-game route and a lot of players who just stuck with hold em and started at the same time as me have much bigger rolls. But I"m starting to catch up [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] FINALLY.
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Old 04-23-2005, 04:06 PM
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Default Re: Specialize in one game or learn all?

As long as you know the basic rules and strats all poker games, if you have a strong understand of poker theory you will excel at them all.

Then it's just a matter of preference and which game is the most profitable at give location / time.
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Old 04-17-2005, 10:40 PM
Mike Gallo Mike Gallo is offline
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Default Re: Specialize in one game or learn all?

Work on becoming an expert poker player, not a specialist. You should strive to learn poker theory.

Welcome aboard.
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Old 04-17-2005, 11:34 PM
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Work on becoming an expert poker player, not a specialist. You should strive to learn poker theory.

Welcome aboard.

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Old 04-18-2005, 07:18 PM
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Default Re: Specialize in one game or learn all?

I personally started with NLHE, then decided that there was more $$$ in LHE. so, i concentrated like crazy on that for a while, then, i took a month and learned how to win at O/8, then a month at stud, then i found stud/8, which has become by far my best game and the game i play most often and win the most at. i am currently trying to become a better LHE player. I also took week-long breaks from LHE when i felt that i wasn't playing LHE well and learned PLO, PLO/8, Draw, Razz, etc...

so what does that tell you? nothing, really, except, go where you are comfortable, play all the games, but focus on one or two, IMHO. also, the poster that said to study theroy has a good point.

from a profitaility standpoint, the consensus is that LHE is the most profitable game, but it depends on the player, availability of the games, tolerance for risk and variance, investment capital, tourneys vs cash games, willingness and ability to multitable, etc, etc, etc...
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Old 04-19-2005, 08:46 AM
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Default Re: Specialize in one game or learn all?

I'm gradually trying to work in other games. I started learning LHE, then O8 after 3 months or so, now I'm working on 7-stud with the occasional NLHE ring game or tournament. Every once in a while for a change of pace I'll play a play money game in razz, A-5 triple draw, five stud, or something equally esoteric.

But it must be said, I'm trying to maximize my EV which depends on my enjoyment. My enjoyment of poker is closely related with the goal of getting the money, but they're not one in the same. I dabble in marginal games because I enjoy them, not because they're lucrative, although I think the better game choice will matter more as I move up in limits.

As for Omaha, the thing is so many people think it's just like holdem, that AAxx is a monster, that top pair on the flop is a good hand, etc. I haven't played the Foxwoods 5/10 but I'm told it's extremely loose; I guess that doesn't really qualify as "mid-limit" but I believe it's the highest limit of exclusively O8 they spread, although they have a bunch of bigger mixed games.
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Old 04-19-2005, 10:58 AM
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Default Re: Specialize in one game or learn all?

I am a limit player, but one of my resolutions this year is to start playing (and beating) baby NL. The games are simply too soft to pass up, given the popularity of televised poker.
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