AK missing value bets?

foldem · #1 04-13-2005, 11:08 PM

This hand is pretty standard, but I have a question regarding betting the river.

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $10.
UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, 4 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG calls.

River: (7.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks

I have a hard time putting UTG on a hand that I can beat when that jack hits the river. Honestly I "felt" like I was going to get check raised on the turn. I feel a weak ace would have led at the flop and AQ would have probably check raised it. Should I be betting this river, and how close is it. Fold to a check raise if I bet? Thanks.

sam h · #2 04-13-2005, 11:19 PM

Easy river bet. You give your opponent too much credit. Next time bet, get paid off, and check the hand history and see that he had KJo.

Surfbullet · #3 04-14-2005, 02:31 AM

This is a clear river value bet.

Surf

mperich · #4 04-14-2005, 02:36 AM

This is not even close, even if you have a3. BET THIS RIVER.

-Mike

foldem · #5 04-14-2005, 02:57 AM

Call a check raise then I take it?

I am just coming off a bad run of out draws, making me a little hesitant and had just sat down so I didnt have any reads yet. I was definitely giving this clown's UTG raise too much respect as he had a pathetic 79o. He would have paid me off too. I am still trying to work on missing value bets though. Someday I will get it right.

PassiveCaller · #6 04-14-2005, 03:06 AM

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This says everything you need to know about what was wrong and why you gave him too much credit.

Jeff W · #7 04-14-2005, 03:00 AM

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Should I be betting this river, and how close is it. Fold to a check raise if I bet?

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It's not close at all. No, you shouldn't fold to a check-raise.

No offense intended, but I'm surprised that you didn't figure this out before you made it to 10/20.

foldem · #8 04-14-2005, 03:10 AM

I am just getting my feet wet at 10/20. However you don't think there is any merit to respecting an UTG raise without any reads?

stir · #9 04-14-2005, 03:29 PM

What's to respect? You said it yourself; you have no read.

No offense either, but if you you have this kind of question you are going to cost yourself $$ at $10/20 unless you go on a positive variance run. I say that based on the fact I don't believe I'm ready for that level yet the answer on this posted hand was obvious.

Respectfully suggest you may stay at a lower level and refine your game.

ALL1N · #10 04-14-2005, 03:41 AM

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No, you shouldn't fold to a check-raise.

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You guys all call down way too much. Folding to a checkraise here is pretty easy.