I decide to bet Q-high

PokerBob · #1 04-13-2005, 05:29 PM

donks all around.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 1 fold, CO calls, 1 fold, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (5 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, CO checks.

Turn: (2.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets...... yes?????

mtdoak · #2 04-13-2005, 05:33 PM

You've got alot of redraws. I try to pick up small pots this way after being checked around if i pick up a draw.

axioma · #3 04-13-2005, 05:45 PM

what percentage of the time do you expect to take this down on the turn, i.e. 4 folds behind you?

this is a question you must have some approximation of in order to make that bet.

mtdoak · #4 04-13-2005, 07:28 PM

Around 25%, depending on the table. I usually try and avoid it if theres 2 or more calling station at the table. Its a semibluff. I would prefer to do this from late position, but he has 13 outs to a very strong hand (and an overcard)

SeaEagle · #5 04-13-2005, 05:42 PM

I almost always make this bet. But it always seems like somebody picked up a set of 5s and pops me so I have to pay an extra bet to see the 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] hit the river.

Nonetheless, I continue to believe it's the right thing to do.

meep_42 · #6 04-13-2005, 05:44 PM

Nice semi-bluff.

What's your plan on a blank river (2:spade):
If only CO calls?
If only SB calls and checks to you?

I'm assuming you're check/folding UI against more than one opponent, but is there any value in a river bluff here?

-d

tytygoodnuts · #7 04-13-2005, 05:50 PM

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Nice semi-bluff.

What's your plan on a blank river (2:spade):
If only CO calls?
If only SB calls and checks to you?

I'm assuming you're check/folding UI against more than one opponent, but is there any value in a river bluff here?

-d

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Semibluffing five people?

axioma · #8 04-13-2005, 05:56 PM

its 4 people, still, enough to make a semibluff questionable.

if 0,2,3, or 4 call your bet you are ok, if 1 calls you are not.

unfortunately i think you end up with precisely 1 caller too often to make betting the optimal choice here. its close though, you cant go too wrong either way.

reads would be very useful here.

PokerBob · #9 04-13-2005, 05:52 PM

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I'm assuming you're check/folding UI against more than one opponent, but is there any value in a river bluff here?

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I am. Agaisnt these donks, I think a bluff is useless.

SmileyEH · #10 04-13-2005, 05:55 PM

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I'm assuming you're check/folding UI against more than one opponent, but is there any value in a river bluff here?

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I am. Agaisnt these donks, I think a bluff is useless.

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If you think a bluff is useless you shouldn't bet the turn.

-SmileyEH