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Old 04-12-2005, 07:24 PM
Frequitude Frequitude is offline
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Default JJ -- First hand of today\'s B&M session. Game on...!

This is at the Concorde in Vienna.

The scene: It's mostly regulars, which means a bunch of old Austrian men. I'm pretty much the youngest guy in the place by 20 years and I'm 23. I'm also from Canada and just over here on work exchange. I haven't picked up much German, and that's obviously all these guys speak. I play an aggressive SSH game, and lots of them get angry & try to give me [censored] for it. They are a bunch of weak-tighties and I laugh as I raise.

SB is a little smarter than, but fits the description of above. I sit down and post in the CO for my first hand. I check my cards and cooly raise before my ass hits the seat...


B&M 3/6 (euro) Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Hero posts in CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img],J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 calls, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero (poster) raises </font>, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
<font color="red">SB bets</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises</font>, <font color="red">SB 3bets</font>, Hero calls.

<font color="blue">I should have capped, hey?</font>


Turn: (7 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">SB bets</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises</font>, <font color="red">SB 3bets</font> , Hero...

?

<font color="blue">Again, I wish I had capped the flop. It would have given me more info on the turn. I caught my card, but he doesn't seem to be scared of much.

Also, this definitely could have been viewed as me sitting down and just going nuts with any two on my first hand. Oddly enough, the same thing happened yesterday. First hand, Jacks. Lots of action on my overpair flop followed up with a perfect J on the turn.

This guy wasn't there, so back to the hand...</font>


Edit: yes, thank you pokey.
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Old 04-12-2005, 07:38 PM
Pokey Pokey is offline
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Default Re: JJ -- First hand of today\'s B&M session. Game on...!

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Turn: (7 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">UTG bets</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises</font>, <font color="red">SB 3bets</font> , Hero...

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First, let me just say how cool it is that someone not in the hand bet this turn. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

You've got a rainbow turn here. What scares you? There are only two hands that can beat you: 56 and 9T. I don't see 56 calling 1.5 bets cold preflop, and I don't see 9T three-betting this flop. I'm seeing a set-over-set situation where you rule the roost. Cap the turn, cap the river, show your better set and leave him stunned and crying into his warm beer.
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Old 04-12-2005, 08:03 PM
Frequitude Frequitude is offline
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Default Re: JJ -- First hand of today\'s B&M session. Game on...!

Good call pokey, see the edit. That's what you get for trying to make a B&amp;M HH look all nice and pretty.

I was definitely considering the set over set. Also, I would give this guy credit for a little better than top-50% hands from the small blind, especially since it was my first hand.
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Old 04-12-2005, 08:09 PM
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Default Re: JJ -- First hand of today\'s B&M session. Game on...!

Just messin' with ya. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Let me just add one thing: as a good player, faced with a total unknown idiot who just sat down and raised HIS OWN BLIND, you've got to be thinking he's a maniac. With anything decent, you're betting this one to the max. I could see SB behaving this way with ANY pocket pair or even AK/AQ. Why let up the aggression when the board has nothing but junk on it? And if he hit trips, then he knows -- KNOWS -- he's got you dead, and he's going to make you pay for it.

You're the unknown in this situation, not him. You're the fresh meat. You're the target. He's got you and he's going to punish you for being beligerent on his table.

Little does he know he's got 1-2 outs to beat you and you are NOT a donk.

YHIG. Make 'em pay.
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Old 04-12-2005, 08:36 PM
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Default Re: JJ -- First hand of today\'s B&M session. Game on...!

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Turn: (7 BB) J (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB 3bets , Hero...

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Cackles as he raises....
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Old 04-12-2005, 09:41 PM
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Default Re: JJ -- First hand of today\'s B&M session. Game on...!

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Cackles as he raises....

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Old 04-12-2005, 10:23 PM
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Default Re: JJ -- First hand of today\'s B&M session. Game on...!

I'm hearing you guys...


Turn: (7 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">UTG bets</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises</font>, <font color="red">SB 3bets</font>, <font color="red">Hero caps</font>.

River: (15 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)

<font color="red">SB bets</font>, Hero...


Tucks his tail between his legs and calls?
Cackles and raises?
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Old 04-13-2005, 12:14 AM
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Default Re: JJ -- First hand of today\'s B&M session. Game on...!

raise
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Old 04-13-2005, 12:17 AM
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Default Re: JJ -- First hand of today\'s B&M session. Game on...!

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River: (15 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)

<font color="red">SB bets</font>, Hero...


Tucks his tail between his legs and calls?
Cackles and raises?

[/ QUOTE ]

I've quit cackling. And the echoes of "ship it" in my head have faded.

Raise, call a 3-bet, IMO.
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Old 04-13-2005, 03:25 AM
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Default Re: JJ -- First hand of today\'s B&M session. Game on...!

I just call. This dude's got a straight, so stop spewing.
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