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Old 04-11-2005, 03:56 PM
KaneKungFu123 KaneKungFu123 is offline
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Default Question about rules of poker

playing the other day on party poker heads-up, i bet the flop and got reraised, then I let most of my time run down and said "argh. ive got AK"... then reraised all-in with AA.

the player called me a cheater and every other name in the book because i lied to him about what cards i was holding.

are you not allowed to do that?
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Old 04-11-2005, 03:59 PM
XChamp XChamp is offline
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Default Re: Question about rules of poker

I don't think it is cheating. I don't think it is unethical or angle-shooting either. If it was than you would be lying with your body language every time you conciously try and act one way to hide the strength or weakness of you hand. Every single poker player does this.
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Old 04-11-2005, 04:06 PM
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Default Re: Question about rules of poker

The player was a chump if he actually believed you.
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Old 04-11-2005, 04:14 PM
miajag81 miajag81 is offline
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Oh my god...LYING??? IN POKER???? WHAT HAS THE WORLD COME TO???

Seriously though, that guy is a douche. Lying about what you have is part of the game.
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Old 04-11-2005, 04:18 PM
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Default Re: Question about rules of poker

If he believed you, he deserved to lose.

"I’m gonna go all-in cuz I don’t think you got the spades."
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Old 04-11-2005, 04:26 PM
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Default Good anecdote

A couple weeks ago I was in LA playing the Winnin' O the Green tourney at the Bike. A hand came up where a visibly inexperienced player bet big on the turn when a flushcard hit. His opponent was coffeehousing and asked him "Do you have the flush?"

The new guy turned to the dealer and says dead seriously, "Do I have to tell him?"
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Old 04-11-2005, 07:17 PM
grouchie grouchie is offline
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Default Re: Good anecdote

when I play Live, I tend to take the opposite approach to lying about my hand.
I like to come right out and tell the truth.
For instance, on a J, 6, 8 board with 2 hearts someone bets and I go all in announcing "Got trips and need to scare out the flush draw."
got called by top pair who thought I was lying and trying to steal the pot.
Now, granted, that is an extreme example, but there have been several hands where I've blatently announced my hand and receive action because someone didn't believe me.

Honesty sometimes is the best policy.
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Old 04-11-2005, 05:58 PM
Matt Flynn Matt Flynn is offline
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Default Re: Question about rules of poker

some rulebooks state that if your declared hand value causes an opponent to muck and then you don't have it, that the pot can be awarded to the mucker. usually that would only come into play on the river after all bets were made.

it's bad form. however, if someone were questioning you in the middle of a hand, lie all you want. that's not bad form: it's just poker.

matt
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Old 04-11-2005, 07:24 PM
Sponger15SB Sponger15SB is offline
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Default Re: Question about rules of poker

I've always thought of doing something like this if me and villian were very deep stacked.

Say its a $400nl game and we've got got like $1,000. Villian raises standard to $16 preflop and I'm to act with AA, and then instead of raising to $50, I raise to $500 and then start going bezerk in the chat box saying like "[censored] [censored] MISCLICK!!!" "[censored] [censored] [censored] me [censored] i accidentally put in another zero, [censored] party poker" etc....


Anyways, how you played it is fine, and also somewhat comical.
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Old 04-11-2005, 07:38 PM
Felix_Nietsche Felix_Nietsche is offline
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Default In English Cardrooms......

If you discuss what you have (true or not) you forfeit the pot..
I doubt the site you played at has that rule....
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