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Old 04-09-2005, 03:17 PM
Zoelef Zoelef is offline
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Default Preflop Pop Quiz:

My play at UB recently is like watching a cow give birth to siamese twins, so I'm taking some downtime and rereading SSHE (again) before I tilt off any more than I already have.

For the last session I pulled a bison and mentally sounded off what I'm doing and why However, since most of the postflop stuff was rather automatic when I looked over it, I went back to my preflop list and began questioning if anything of my judgements were poor...

SemiLoose-Neutral Tables, ~35% to flop, ~5-6BB pots average
Edit: Full-Ring Tables, usually 9-10 handed

Preflop Decisions:
01.) 5 limpers to you: ATo on button
02.) MP1 Raises, 1 coldcall: JJ in CO
03.) AJs UTG
04.) MP2 Raise, MP3 Reraises, JJ in CO
05.) 3 Limpers + SB; QJo in BB
06.) 99 UTG
07.) 2 Limpers; Q9o in SB
08.) Folded to you: 33 on Button
09.) 1 Limper: QTo in MP1
10.) 1 Limper, SB folds: KJo in BB
11.) UTG+1 Raises: AQo in UTG+2
12.) UTG+1 Raises: 99 in SB
13.) MP3 Raises, SB Calls: A4o in BB
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Old 04-09-2005, 03:42 PM
Shillx Shillx is offline
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Default Re: Preflop Pop Quiz:

01.) 5 limpers to you: ATo on button
02.) MP1 Raises, 1 coldcall: JJ in CO
03.) AJs UTG
04.) MP2 Raise, MP3 Reraises, JJ in CO
05.) 3 Limpers + SB; QJo in BB
06.) 99 UTG
07.) 2 Limpers; Q9o in SB
08.) Folded to you: 33 on Button
09.) 1 Limper: QTo in MP1
10.) 1 Limper, SB folds: KJo in BB
11.) UTG+1 Raises: AQo in UTG+2
12.) UTG+1 Raises: 99 in SB
13.) MP3 Raises, SB Calls: A4o in BB




1) Call
2) Reraise
3) Raise
4) Coldcall for information
5) Check
6) Call/Raise mix, right now I'm 2:1 Raise to call.
7) Complete. Fold if BB raises.
8) Fold.
9) Fold.
10) Depends where limper is. Probably raise though.
11) Fold.
12) Call if BB is loose. You are getting 4.5:1.5 so you need to make up 6.75 SB if you only play for set value (and you won't always play just for set value of course). This is a reasonable amount to make up imo. I'd probably reraise with a tight BB and play my hand for what it is.
13) Fold. A4 in this spot isn't a very good hand. I'd much rather see K9 or QJ.

Brad
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Old 04-09-2005, 07:24 PM
Emmitt2222 Emmitt2222 is offline
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Default Re: Preflop Pop Quiz:

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8) Fold.

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I hope thats a typo, you should be raising that almost all the time. If they are loose they will call with worse hands and you profit. If they are tight you take the blinds the majority of the time. If a TAG reraises you then you can call down or fold depending on how bad the board looks.
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Old 04-09-2005, 03:49 PM
btspider btspider is offline
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Default Re: Preflop Pop Quiz:

01.) 5 limpers to you: ATo on button
call

02.) MP1 Raises, 1 coldcall: JJ in CO
easy 3-bet

03.) AJs UTG
easy raise

04.) MP2 Raise, MP3 Reraises, JJ in CO
if they were EP, i'd fold. if they have a wide PF range here, i'd cap. i don't think a fold is terrible if readless or passive read here. with other limpers, i'd either call for info or cap to get dead money in the pot.

05.) 3 Limpers + SB; QJo in BB
easy check.

06.) 99 UTG
raise or limp.

07.) 2 Limpers; Q9o in SB
eh, close. fold isn't bad w/o any reads to help you postflop. QTo is a call in a 1/2 structure.

08.) Folded to you: 33 on Button
raise or fold. reads help.

09.) 1 Limper: QTo in MP1
easy fold.

10.) 1 Limper, SB folds: KJo in BB
where's the limper? raise or check depending on reads/position.

11.) UTG+1 Raises: AQo in UTG+2
fold w/o a read

12.) UTG+1 Raises: 99 in SB
fold if he's tight. raise if he's loose, consider a call if BB is loose.

13.) MP3 Raises, SB Calls: A4o in BB
easy fold.
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Old 04-09-2005, 03:57 PM
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Default Re: Preflop Pop Quiz:

[ QUOTE ]

01.) 5 limpers to you: ATo on button
02.) MP1 Raises, 1 coldcall: JJ in CO
03.) AJs UTG
04.) MP2 Raise, MP3 Reraises, JJ in CO
05.) 3 Limpers + SB; QJo in BB
06.) 99 UTG
07.) 2 Limpers; Q9o in SB
08.) Folded to you: 33 on Button
09.) 1 Limper: QTo in MP1
10.) 1 Limper, SB folds: KJo in BB
11.) UTG+1 Raises: AQo in UTG+2
12.) UTG+1 Raises: 99 in SB
13.) MP3 Raises, SB Calls: A4o in BB

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1. Call
2. 3bet
3. Raise
4. Fold.
5. Check.
6. Raise
7. Fold
8. Raise
9. Fold
10. Raise
11. Fold
12. Call
13. Fold

I am open to criticism.
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Old 04-09-2005, 04:05 PM
InFeRn0 InFeRn0 is offline
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Default Re: Preflop Pop Quiz:

1)call
2)call
3)bet
4)fold
5)check?
6)call
7)fold
8)raise
9)fold
10)check
11)call
12)call
13)fold
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Old 04-09-2005, 04:11 PM
TomBrooks TomBrooks is offline
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Default Re: Preflop Pop Quiz:

SemiLoose-Neutral Tables, ~35% to flop, ~5-6BB pots average
Edit: Full-Ring Tables, usually 9-10 handed

Preflop Decisions:
01.) 5 limpers to you: ATo on button RAISE OR CALL
02.) MP1 Raises, 1 coldcall: JJ in CO RAISE
03.) AJs UTG RAISE
04.) MP2 Raise, MP3 Reraises, JJ in CO CALL
05.) 3 Limpers + SB; QJo in BB CHECK
06.) 99 UTG RAISE
07.) 2 Limpers; Q9o in SB FOLD/ 2: CALL (MARGINAL)
08.) Folded to you: 33 on Button FOLD / 2: RAISE ??
09.) 1 Limper: QTo in MP1 FOLD
10.) 1 Limper, SB folds: KJo in BB CHECK
11.) UTG+1 Raises: AQo in UTG+2 CALL ??
12.) UTG+1 Raises: 99 in SB COMPLETE
13.) MP3 Raises, SB Calls: A4o in BB FOLD
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Old 04-09-2005, 04:12 PM
chiachu chiachu is offline
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Default Re: Preflop Pop Quiz:

oh man.. lets see how bad i can mess this up

1) fold
2) reraise
3) limp
4) reraise
5) check
6) limp
7) fold
8) fold
9) fold
10) check
11) reraise
12) fold
13) fold


and yes, i am a weak tight player [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 04-09-2005, 04:14 PM
istewart istewart is offline
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Default Re: Preflop Pop Quiz:

In the JJ after a raise and a 3-bet hand, is MP2 open-raising?
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Old 04-09-2005, 04:16 PM
Yobz Yobz is offline
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Default Re: Preflop Pop Quiz:

01.) 5 limpers to you: ATo on button

I would probably raise here, try to get a free card on the flop if I miss.

02.) MP1 Raises, 1 coldcall: JJ in CO

Raise, easy raise.

03.) AJs UTG

Raise

04.) MP2 Raise, MP3 Reraises, JJ in CO

If I had any read on MP2/MP3 then I would go by that...I can see fold/call/raise in this sitation, very read based. Against unknowns then I would probably fold if they bet from EP, raise if they bet from CO-1 and CO.

05.) 3 Limpers + SB; QJo in BB

Call, you have no other options

06.) 99 UTG

Raise, maybe call

07.) 2 Limpers; Q9o in SB

Fold

08.) Folded to you: 33 on Button

Raise

09.) 1 Limper: QTo in MP1

Fold

10.) 1 Limper, SB folds: KJo in BB

Any read on limper? Either call or raise, depends on reads

11.) UTG+1 Raises: AQo in UTG+2

Any reads? Fold *most* of the time, maybe throw in a call or raise if you have a read

12.) UTG+1 Raises: 99 in SB

Probably raise and then bet into him on the flop.

13.) MP3 Raises, SB Calls: A4o in BB

Fold
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