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Old 04-07-2005, 11:03 PM
dark_horse dark_horse is offline
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Default valuebet this?

figured raising on the button is better than limping with this. on the river in 1st pos HU i would c/c. if i were c/r here not sure what i would do.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, MP1 folds.

Turn: (5.25 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

River: (7.25 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG folds.

Final Pot: 8.25 BB
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Old 04-07-2005, 11:29 PM
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Default Re: valuebet this?

Perfect.

People who want to know how to get their PFR up, this is how.
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Old 04-08-2005, 02:25 AM
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Default Re: valuebet this?

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People who want to know how to get their PFR up, this is how.

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This is what he meant to say:

People who want to know how to turn LAG, this is how. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

Brad
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Old 04-08-2005, 02:31 AM
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Default Re: valuebet this?

[ QUOTE ]
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People who want to know how to get their PFR up, this is how.

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This is what he meant to say:

People who want to know how to turn LAG, this is how. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

Brad

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i think a Shillx vs Entity duel in the making .. the preflop raise is ok if the limpers are the bad LPP types, since you didn't provide reads .. i don't think this should be the automatic default line here
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Old 04-09-2005, 01:01 PM
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I would limp preflop unless the SB or BB were good players. I like the rest.

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Old 04-09-2005, 01:03 PM
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Guys,

Folding preflop here sucks the big one unless the limpers are good. You don't need to be a magic worker postflop to turn a profit from a hand like this on the button.
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Old 04-09-2005, 01:19 PM
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I advocated the raise, but I would definitely at least limp this.

Or were you just using my response as a convenient post to address everyone in general? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 04-09-2005, 01:23 PM
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I advocated the raise, but I would definitely at least limp this.

Or were you just using my response as a convenient post to address everyone in general? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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I just hit reply on a random post. I know you advocated the raise, which I probably wouldn't do here unless I felt I gained something from it -- I'd do it if the limpers were fit-or-fold or if the blinds were good, but I'd just limp otherwise.

Rob
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Old 04-07-2005, 11:29 PM
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I like it, but I'm folding to a raise. That turn completes a lot of draws. Given the line he's taken here I bet you're good 65% of the time.
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Old 04-09-2005, 12:34 PM
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That turn completes a lot of draws.

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No it doesn't.

It completes two inside straight draws(A-3 and 6-3), and the second one is unlikely.
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