AJs query

trentcroad · #1 04-05-2005, 11:22 AM

How could I have played this hand better?
MP2 appears to be a maniac but I have only 30 hands on him atm.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, MP2 raises, 1 fold, Hero calls, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP2 bets, Hero raises, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 calls, MP2 raises, Hero calls, UTG+1 folds.

River: (11.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP2 bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13.75 BB

sublime · #2 04-05-2005, 11:26 AM

3-bet preflop. (i fold here a ton, but if you think the guy is whacko then 3-bet)

the rest seems fine

adamstewart · #3 04-05-2005, 11:33 AM

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3-bet preflop. (i fold here a ton, but if you think the guy is whacko then 3-bet)

the rest seems fine

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Just wondering...

Against an unknown preflop raiser, I'll generally cold-call with AJs, but usually not 3-bet (as per SSH).

Against a LAG, I'll for sure 3-bet, especially heads-up.

I rarely fold AJs preflop to a sinlge raise. (Just going by SSH).

Do you see any problems here??? Or is this 'standard'?

Are there any adjustments I should think about depending on whether is Heads-up, against 2-3 others, or against 4 or more players?

Adam

lmbree · #4 04-05-2005, 11:34 AM

That seems standard to me, because that is how i play it. Curious to see what others think.

pokerstudAA · #5 04-05-2005, 11:42 AM

AJs is not usually one I am cold calling first in with.

Mabye that is too tight but AJs (even sooted) is easily dominated by many preflop raising hands. I can usually lay this one down against a tight raiser 6% and will 3-bet it against someone who raises 12%+.

With a cold caller inbetween I am more likely to consider a cold call but AJs is usually worth a 3-bet here with some poor fish in the middle. I guess a cold call is more likely to bring along a few more players and AJs is good multiway.

trentcroad · #6 04-05-2005, 11:37 AM

I was thinking the same way as Adam here.
I really didnt know just how loose and nuts this guy was.

highlife · #7 04-05-2005, 11:38 AM

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I rarely fold AJs preflop to a raise. (Just going by SSH).

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depends on position, personally i'll cold call two bets with AJs from MP3-Button, but not usually before.

sublime · #8 04-05-2005, 11:44 AM

i cant argue with what you posted, and definitly not with ed [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

i just think on the whole, the games he writes about are different enought from the ones we play in, that certain changes need to be made in his preflop guideline. this situation doesnt appear to be one of them, however i probably 3-bet if the guy has been a fcuktard, even if its over a small sample.

EDIT: the games ed talks about are live loose passive games, where we play in tighter more aggressive games. because of this i play tighter than what he recommends.

highlife · #9 04-05-2005, 11:29 AM

3-bet preflop to isolate.

3-bet the turn, if he caps check-call the river, if not bet-raise the river.

Fat Nicky · #10 04-05-2005, 11:37 AM

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3-bet the turn

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I don't like this, we are almost always trailing when we are capped, and if that's the case we just paid 4 bets to hit our draw. Also, 30 hands isn't enough to convince me the pf raiser is a maniac to make 3-betting the turn a good play.