Starting to question if this gme is profitable

og5 · #1 04-02-2005, 08:25 PM

I've read posts from a lot of guys here who say they make money playing poker. I kind of know it is possible, but still I wonder if it really is. I've been playing for a couple months now, I play 40 hours a week at least. I don't have anything to show for it (except a few hundred in bonus money) I know there's a small chance I'm in a breakeven streak but I doubt it. Anyways enough ranting, here is a picture of my session stats

Is there anything that sticks out as wrong? (besides all the red numbers) What should my % of winning sessions be? Has anyone else noticed their longer sessions tend to have wrose results than their short ones? (Maybe this points to a bad player?)

Thanks

surfdoc · #2 04-02-2005, 08:36 PM

why do the hands not add up to 25k? Oh nevermind, I guess there are some .5/1 hands or something. Sample is still pretty small.

Evan · #3 04-02-2005, 08:40 PM

I wouldn't be worrying about your % of winning sessions, that's not a very important metric (but yours is kinda low).

Stats like vpip and pfr are way mroe important, thought processes behind your play in hands is more important yet.

Also, how the hell do you play 6 hours at one table? You may want to work on better game selection.

Sponger15SB · #4 04-02-2005, 08:42 PM

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I've read posts from a lot of guys here who say they make money playing poker. I kind of know it is possible, but still I wonder if it really is.

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Nope, you can't win playing poker.

Nobody does.

MicroBob · #5 04-02-2005, 08:52 PM

Low VPIP.

You don't even show what your PFR is so I'm guessing that is low too. The fact that you don't even show it indicates that you don't consider that to be very important (compared with number of winning sessions or whatever it is you're looking at).

Yes...it's possible you're just in a break-even stretch. But based on the little info that I see from your post I would have to believe it is MORE likely that you just aren't playing a very winning game.

One needs to ask oneself NOT whether or not the game itself is profitable....but whether one is actually playing a profitable game.
The fact that you think one should be able to tell how well you play from this info indicates that you probably don't play well.

you NEED to either read HH's in the micro-limits forum or POST HH's there.
I suspect you are just playing a weak-tight borderling break-even game....but there's really no way to know for sure.

RaymondKHessel · #6 04-02-2005, 08:53 PM

Gong back over some of the hands you have posted, it's obvious you don't have a very solid grasp on some of the basic fundamentals.

Quit playing 2/4 and 3/6 and move back down to 1/2 or .5/1 and work on your game. Go buy some good poker books, read them, re-read them, and then read them again. Since your game is weak, I would recommend a little more time studying, and alot less time playing (40 hours a week??? Good Lord!).

Obviously this is something you want to succeed at (you play 40 hour weeks for goodness sake [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]), so if you focus that desire, you should do fine. But it's going to require putting some ego aside, realizing you aren't that good (yet) and taking the steps to fix all of that.

Good Luck!!

dogmeat · #7 04-02-2005, 08:55 PM

The game is not profitable for all players. You may be in 90% of online players that can't beat the game.

Dogmeat [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

og5 · #8 04-02-2005, 09:04 PM

Ok thanks. I realize that my PFR and other stats are important, I posted the sessions tab to see what percent of winning sessions I should aim to achieve (This was a mistake) Your right though, my PFR is roughly 5% which is too low. I will devote more time to study and less time to playing for now.

Thanks

SmileyEH · #9 04-03-2005, 07:12 PM

There are tons of players like you which play far too straightforward, weak, and get run over. I'm sure you end up folding far too often and you don't get much action when you catch a big hand.

-SmileyEH

og5 · #10 04-03-2005, 07:53 PM

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There are tons of players like you which play far too straightforward, weak, and get run over. I'm sure you end up folding far too often and you don't get much action when you catch a big hand.

-SmileyEH

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This is my problem exactly. I guess I'm glad its not uncommon [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Now the question is how to fix it? Coldcall more and risk playing dominated hands? Continue (maybe lead with) marginal holdings that may pay off when they hit or still lose to stronger hands? Yes, I have a lot of studying to do!