K7s blind steal

cab4656 · #1 04-01-2005, 07:58 PM

Both blinds are pretty tight, though I would have tried a steal with this hand anyway.

On the flop I was just peeling one off since the pot odds were nice.

My main question here is the river - is this worth a value bet? But if I screwed up somewhere else, please let me know.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
3 folds, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, BB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (9 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, BB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: (5.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 5.50 BB

stigmata · #2 04-01-2005, 08:04 PM

I'm raising the flop, and betting the turn.

WarmonkEd · #3 04-01-2005, 08:40 PM

I definitely would've bet the turn. River bet would also be good.

wrto4556 · #4 04-01-2005, 09:25 PM

I like smooth calling the flop, if he bets again you can raise (folding to a 3-bet), and check behind on the river. Since he didn't bet, you should.

ni han

kiddo · #5 04-02-2005, 04:54 AM

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I like smooth calling the flop, if he bets again you can raise (folding to a 3-bet), and check behind on the river. Since he didn't bet, you should.

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yep, this is my line against an aggressive guy. If he is overaggressive, capable of 3betting turn without pair I prefer calling as long as he is betting.

If he is capable of checkfolding turn, if I call flop, I would often raise flop and bet turn.

You are often ahead on this flop, its not a quesstion about having odds. Its a question of attacking and hoping u are ahead and folding if he shows u, u arent.

sthief09 · #6 04-17-2005, 01:14 PM

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I like smooth calling the flop, if he bets again you can raise (folding to a 3-bet), and check behind on the river. Since he didn't bet, you should.

ni han

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if you're going to fold to a 3-bet, it's better to just raise the flop. you're just unnecessarily folding a 5 outer. I also don't know how much I like taking the free showdown. on one hand, he might pay off with A high, but on the other, you'll really feel like you overplayed it if he turns over QQ. I think a call flop, raise turn, check river line, calling a turn 3-bet and subsequently usually calling a river bet is the way to go

Nate tha' Great · #7 04-17-2005, 01:23 PM

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I like smooth calling the flop, if he bets again you can raise (folding to a 3-bet), and check behind on the river. Since he didn't bet, you should.

ni han

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if you're going to fold to a 3-bet, it's better to just raise the flop. you're just unnecessarily folding a 5 outer. I also don't know how much I like taking the free showdown. on one hand, he might pay off with A high, but on the other, you'll really feel like you overplayed it if he turns over QQ. I think a call flop, raise turn, check river line, calling a turn 3-bet and subsequently usually calling a river bet is the way to go

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I'm not so keen on raising the turn and calling down from a 3-bet. That's getting to be pretty damned expensive, and not really +EV IMO except against an opponent who is described as very aggressive.

The ways I'd usually play this:

1) Call down, bet any street when checked to, fold to check-raise.

2) Raise flop, call down if 3-bet. I don't mind putting 3 bets in on the *cheap* street nearly as much as I do on the expensive street, especially since your opponent is more likely to play back at you.

3) Call flop, raise a turn blank, fold to a 3-bet. Feel out whether to bet the river based on card texture. Note: this line is most useful against someone who is capable of folding something like 99 on the right day.

sqvirrel · #8 04-16-2005, 12:00 PM

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River bet would also be good.

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I'm not so sure. What does Villain call that Hero beats? Ace high? A worse 7?

I prefer flop raise, bet/fold turn, check behind/call river.

Clarkmeister · #9 04-02-2005, 04:04 AM

Dude, you HAVE to bet the turn and bet the river here. You'll get crushed in SH games if you routinely leave bets on the table like that.

Chris Daddy Cool · #10 04-02-2005, 10:59 AM

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Dude, you HAVE to bet the turn and bet the river here. You'll get crushed in SH games if you routinely leave bets on the table like that.

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