The party continues (some whining, MC)

MrBig30 · #1 03-30-2005, 04:44 AM

Opponent megaloose idiot, but not too aggressive, never seen him cap before (63/10/1.8 over 70h). Do any of you skip the 3-bet on the river?

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 3 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, UTG calls.

Flop: (5 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, UTG caps, Hero calls.

River: (11.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, UTG caps, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 19.50 BB

Results in white below: 
UTG has Ts 8s (straight flush, ten high).
Hero has Qs As (flush, ace high).
Outcome: UTG wins 19.50 BB.

Matt Jenko · #2 03-30-2005, 09:02 AM

not 3 betting is probably correct given your read having never seen him do this but I will be losing as much as you on this hand...

einbert · #3 03-30-2005, 09:28 AM

Well he saved you $30 at least.

RunDownHouse · #4 03-30-2005, 09:38 AM

I don't care what I've seen out of him over 70 hands, I'm capping this on every street.

mperich · #5 03-30-2005, 10:13 AM

Not 3betting the river would be the worst move in the history of man.

-Mike

rory · #6 03-30-2005, 10:15 AM

Just call the river raise.

MAxx · #7 03-30-2005, 10:48 AM

i threebet this river too. i think it is the most profitable thing to do against all types of players here... especially when they are relatively unknown at 70 hands.

i'd threebet rory's weak-tight granny here.

tolbiny · #8 03-30-2005, 10:55 AM

I'm with you rory- Its not like he is just oging to push a set like this- so you are hoping he has either a King high flush, or he has the straight flush. The straight flush costs you 2 more bets and the king high wins you one more most of the time. And many of these players won't show push a king high this hard.

MAxx · #9 03-30-2005, 11:25 AM

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I'm with you rory- Its not like he is just oging to push a set like this- so you are hoping he has either a King high flush, or he has the straight flush. The straight flush costs you 2 more bets and the king high wins you one more most of the time. And many of these players won't show push a king high this hard.

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IMO, It is going to win you an extra BB the vast majority of the time and you will loose 2 extra BBs a much lesser % of the time. I think not 3-betting is -EV.

stigmata · #10 03-30-2005, 11:03 AM

Sucky hand [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

I vote No 3-bet against unkown with med. agg.