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03-23-2005, 09:54 AM
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Re: 50k hands and i\'ve lost money with 22-55
I'm a little surprised.
In 2/4 I play them from UTG in most games - almost entirely for set value. After 20k hands I'm winning with all pairs except 55 (which indicates that the sample size is too small). What is your strategy with them? I would replay a load of hands where you played them past the flop. Your stategy with them appears to not be working. 
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03-23-2005, 10:08 AM
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Re: 50k hands and i\'ve lost money with 22-55
i'll play them from up front unless i notice the game is raising a lot and sometimes shorthanded. i'll only play them from MP if i've got 2+ limpers and LP if i've got 3+. postflop i don't try anything tricky, i just play for the sets.
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#4
03-23-2005, 11:51 AM
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Re: 50k hands and i\'ve lost money with 22-55
I play my small pairs from anywhere for one bet as along as I have a limper in front of me and I make a decent profit on them.
If you truly dump them unless you hit a set then you need to review the hands you hit. Start with the ones you lost. Was there something you could have done to win the hand? Then look at the winners. Did you manage to extract max value? Post them here for some feedback. Also something to look at is are you weak-tight? If so your opponents may not be paying you off like they could be if you were doing an appropriate amount of semi-bluffing and semi-bluff raising.
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03-23-2005, 10:08 AM
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Re: 50k hands and i\'ve lost money with 22-55
I've won money with them. Maybe you should post some questionable hands. I'm positive with them even from EP. You definitely shouldn't be negative with them overall from all positions. I'd look back and post some that you may be unsure about postflop.
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#8
03-23-2005, 11:43 AM
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Re: 50k hands and i\'ve lost money with 22-55
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Important though that you get enough callers into the pot to get the implicit odds high enough. Are you seeing enough callers to the flop? [/ QUOTE ] Yes and no. I don't mind taking any PP heads up. If I don't get enough callers should I just tell them to call more? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Seriously though, I don't always play them.
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#9
03-23-2005, 11:32 AM
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Re: 50k hands and i\'ve lost money with 22-55
For ages 55 was my worst hand because I was playing it too much too often and not folding it when I did.
Now I tightened up and play 55-22 LP (or with a number of players in) and mosttimes use no-set-no-bet philosophy and my hole is blocked. Ain't making much with them, but at least I'm not losing hand over fist as I used to be. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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#10
03-23-2005, 11:28 AM
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Re: 50k hands and i\'ve lost money with 22-55
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these are suppose to be +ev right? or are they -ev, but less -ev than folding? [/ QUOTE ] LMAO. Seriously, depends how you play them, don't you think? Adam
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