AA --Too Aggressive?

gaming_mouse · #1 03-22-2005, 09:58 PM

Does anyone see a better line here or a place where I should have layed down?

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 fold, MP1 calls, Hero raises, 3 folds, SB calls, 1 fold, UTG calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (9 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets, UTG calls, MP1 raises, Hero 3-bets, SB caps, UTG calls, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (12.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets, SB calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls.

River: (16.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets, UTG folds, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 19.50 BB

einbert · #2 03-22-2005, 10:05 PM

If you're confident MP1 will bet the turn if checked to I think this is a good spot to wait until the turn to raise. A threebet on the turn means a whole lot more so you could fold to it.

I think you have to call the river, but I could be wrong.

What do you think of that?

gaming_mouse · #3 03-22-2005, 10:14 PM

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I think you have to call the river, but I could be wrong.

What do you think of that?

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I think given the size of the pot and the way I played it that yes, I have to call the river.

OTOH, it is pretty clear that I'm beat.

einbert · #4 03-22-2005, 10:16 PM

What do you think of waiting until the turn to raise?

jason_t · #5 03-22-2005, 10:17 PM

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I think given the size of the pot and the way I played it that yes, I have to call the river.

OTOH, it is pretty clear that I'm beat.

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What?

mr pink · #6 03-22-2005, 10:19 PM

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I think given the size of the pot and the way I played it that yes, I have to call the river.

OTOH, it is pretty clear that I'm beat.

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What?

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diamond frush for sure.

gaming_mouse · #7 03-22-2005, 10:20 PM

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I think given the size of the pot and the way I played it that yes, I have to call the river.

OTOH, it is pretty clear that I'm beat.

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What?

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What does your "what" refer to? You don't think I am beat here the majority of the time? I'm not saying I don't have odds to call the river, but I am surely a big dog.

jason_t · #8 03-22-2005, 10:23 PM

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What does your "what" refer to? You don't think I am beat here the majority of the time? I'm not saying I don't have odds to call the river, but I am surely a big dog.

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You say it is clear that you are beat, but that you have to call. I say "what" in an incredulous tone.

SB has a diamond flush, probably with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Fold.

I think that the rest of the hand is fine.

pokerkai · #9 03-22-2005, 10:18 PM

Definitely not too agressive.

I call the river expecting to see Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

private joker · #10 03-22-2005, 10:24 PM

Without reads to the contrary, a flop cap and a turn check-call scream flush draw. I'd probably call the flop raise and raise the turn. But the SB might 3-bet behind me and MP1 could cap. Either way, I think you're in second place at best. I think SB hit a flush on the river and MP has either 2 pair or TPGK like KQ. When he calls the river that means he didn't miss a draw, so he's got a made hand. This is a big pot, but it might be a tough and correct laydown on the river. (Not that I'd do it. For one bet closing the action, I'd call too).