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03-19-2005, 05:37 PM
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Big stacks put wayfare to the test
No real reads on villan other than he hasn't done anything super out of the ordinary. What do you guys think -- fold the turn? Fold the river? Huh? What? Yeah!
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font> CO ($67.68) <font color="#C00000">Hero ($116.3)</font> <font color="#C00000">SB ($119.49)</font> BB ($97.35) UTG ($313.25) MP ($117.8) Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.5. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $2</font>, Hero calls $2, SB (poster) calls $1.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $1. Flop: ($9) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, MP checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $7</font>, SB calls $7, MP folds, CO folds. Turn: ($23) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $16</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $32</font>, Hero calls $16. River: ($87) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> SB calls $78.49 (All-In), Hero calls $75.30 (All-In). Final Pot: $240.79 
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03-19-2005, 08:40 PM
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Re: Big stacks put wayfare to the test
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Bump Mathprof, what hands do you put him on on the turn? I put him on a flush draw with the instant call on the flop. [/ QUOTE ] ty for mentioning the read in the first post wayfare, a flush draw (reasonable holding to the turn) doesn't min raise the turn. I dont like the turn call. once you call the turn you know the rest will go in on the river. Save the money, fold the turn. Once you do call and hit the 3 outer you myst call though.
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03-19-2005, 09:07 PM
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Re: Big stacks put wayfare to the test
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So you put him on a better king? Yet he didn't raise preflop? And he didn't raise the flop? Dubious. [/ QUOTE ] I wouldn't raise KJ or KQ out of the blinds, so not raising preflop doesn't mean your T kicker is good. But true, fishy that a top pair hand doesn't lead out or checkraise the board (especially when you bet last to act on the flop, any king should try to snap off enticing pot odds if he calls) So that means he in fact has a draw or a stronger hand. I'll give you that. On this board he could have a weak draw like A4, A5, 56 (three very unlikely but not implausible) Or an obv flush draw, (so perhaps two unders to the king) or NFD. Or maybe 45 for oesd. Or pair plus flushdraw (here like KQ [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or something which has you crushed) A set posisble, I'll agree KK is very very unliekly, and I dont like seeing monsters so the % that a set would play that flop so slowly is low, but still possible. So 33 and 22, throw them in. Or, if villain is loose to call a min raise, K3 suited, k2 suited, or 23 suited are possible. But the two pair hands are unlikely. So taking thjis into consideration I like your turn bet. It's very likely you're ahead, and very likely he's drawing. So time to get value vs the draws. But then he min raises the turn; this is NOT a semibluff. Occaisonally you'll see fairly tricky players checkraising all in with a draw on the turn, but this wasn't an all in, it was a min raise. (BTW, should note that if you felt your K was best on the turn, you should've put him in, as if a draw misses unless they WILL bluff the resat you wont get anything, whereas if it hits you might've paid off anyways.) Would a K w/ horrid kicker commit this much on the turn? Unlikely. So that narrows his holdings to the improbable two pair or a set. What are you putting him on? I really hate seeing monsters under the bed, but I dont like your turn play.
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