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I got a kick from some of the comments on rgp about what a great player phil is when playing in this game. below is a hh of a hand I played with him. he quit shortly after that, with comments from the remaining players of, "there goes the game," and "game over, man." the game broke down to a few hardcores a few minutes after he left.
PokerStars Game #xxxx: Hold'em Limit ($100/$200) - (ET) Table 'Suevia' Seat #8 is the button Seat 1: B Buddy ($24605 in chips) Seat 2: scoopydo ($2047 in chips) Seat 3: wild chinese ($3834.50 in chips) Seat 4: GROGAN ($3970.50 in chips) Seat 5: Dan Druff ($2514 in chips) Seat 6: offthenuts ($2847 in chips) Seat 7: Spyder44 ($3359 in chips) Seat 8: Joe Medwick ($15966 in chips) Seat 9:snakehead($4800 in chips) Seat 10: #1_Lucky_One ($1500 in chips) mtnman: posts small blind $50 #1_Lucky_One: posts big blind $100 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to snakehead [6d Ah] B Buddy: folds B Buddy leaves the table scoopydo: folds wild chinese: folds GROGAN: folds Dan Druff: folds offthenuts: folds Spyder44: folds Joe Medwick: folds thedonator joins the table at seat #1 snakehead: raises $100 to $200 thedonator is sitting out #1_Lucky_One: calls $100 *** FLOP *** [5s 4h 7s] snakehead: bets $100 #1_Lucky_One: raises $100 to $200 snakehead: calls $100 *** TURN *** [5s 4h 7s] [7c] snakehead: checks #1_Lucky_One: bets $200 snakehead: raises $200 to $400 #1_Lucky_One: calls $200 *** RIVER *** [5s 4h 7s 7c] [Ad] snakehead: bets $200 #1_Lucky_One: calls $200 *** SHOW DOWN *** snakehead: shows [6d Ah] (two pair, Aces and Sevens) #1_Lucky_One: mucks hand snakehead collected $1997 from pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot $2000 | Rake $3 Board [5s 4h 7s 7c Ad] Seat 1: B Buddy folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: scoopydo folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: wild chinese folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: GROGAN folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: Dan Druff folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: offthenuts folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: Spyder44 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: Joe Medwick (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: snakehead (small blind) showed [6d Ah] and won ($1997) with two pair, Aces and Sevens Seat 10: #1_Lucky_One (big blind) mucked [Ks 9h] |
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Ni han. There's a reason that Phil stopped playing at Bay 101 years ago. They chewed him up.
BTW: You may want to edit the post since you forgot to change your screenname once. |
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heh, I guess I've been outed. now everyone can go to pokertracker and see how bad I play.
and I thought I was being so clever. |
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heh, I guess I've been outed. now everyone can go to pokertracker and see how bad I play. and I thought I was being so clever. [/ QUOTE ] Lesee... I've got you down as ubernit. - Andrew www.pokerstove.com |
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I don't think I got all of that. I hope it's in his book so I can really study it. What I really need help with is the call of your check-raise on the turn with K-high/no draw.
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I don't think I got all of that. I hope it's in his book so I can really study it. What I really need help with is the call of your check-raise on the turn with K-high/no draw. [/ QUOTE ] He was defending against exactly what snakeman had. A draw. Unfortunatly for Phil, snakeman's kicker was an ace. Phil's big mistake wasn't calling the k/r, or calling on the river. It was betting the turn. - Andrew www.pokerstove.com |
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He was defending against exactly what snakeman had. A draw. Unfortunatly for Phil, snakeman's kicker was an ace. Phil's big mistake wasn't calling the k/r, or calling on the river. It was betting the turn. - Andrew [/ QUOTE ] Yes, betting the turn was a mistake. Calling the raise was compounding the mistake. I'm sure you agree. He's getting 6:1 effective, MAYBE 8:1 implied, and has 6 weak potential outs, let's count 5, liberally. He has obviously decided to call down with K-high against all but the scariest river cards. He must have Snakehead on Q-high or worse when he check-raised the turn, I guess. I see this all the time in that game, guys falling in love with their reads. The math dictates a fold to the raise on the turn. Am I missing something? Even if we count all six outs as clean, and we throw in the 5-10% that his king is good, it's STILL a fold. |
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I think I need help with his play on every street, but especially his smooth call btf with a decent hand against an automatic raise from the sb.
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Snakehead you said
>>>I think I need help with his play on every street, but especially his smooth call btf with a decent hand against an automatic raise from the sb.<<< OK, I am not bashing anything in this sentence, just trying to learn...you first claim that your raise from the SB here is "automatic" meaning you would do it with 62o...is this the optimal play? Why? Second you seem to think that Hellmuth is making a big mistake if he is not "ALWAYS" 3-betting a SB raise HU with K9o...Why is this such a big mistake? Again, my heads up high-limit game is not where I want it to be...could you explain what I am not understanding here? |
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I wouldn't make the play with 62. but if I'm going to play, I'm going to raise. that could be a very wide variety of hands, may of which are worse than K9. this game is very aggressive.
now why don't you ask prock why he calle me a nit. |
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